Rick Torrey

[Coydog]

We've plowed this ground before, but here's the full story not reported by O'Reilly:

Chittenden County District Court Judge Edward Cashman changed his sentence of Mark Hulett this morning ordering that he spend a minimum of three years in prison.

In announcing his decision, Cashman said the prison time, conditions of release and suspended sentences on two other charges ensure Mr. Hulett's lifelong supervision by the state.

Hulett had pleaded guilty to charges he sexually abused a now 10-year-old girl over a period of four years. Cashman had originally given Hulett a 60-day minimum so that Hulett could get sex offender treatment as soon as possible.

At a Jan. 4 hearing, The Vermont Department of Corrections said it would not provide such treatment for Hulett while he was in prison because it deemed him not to be a high risk to society. At the time, Cashman said it was his priority to get Hulett treatment so that he did not become a hardened criminal who would be more of a danger to society.

So he ordered that Hulett be released after a minimum of 60 days in prison and that he immediately enter a sex offender treatment program in the community. He also set 21 other stringent conditions and suspended jail terms on two other charges. Those would be revoked if the conditions were not met and Hulett could have faced a life in jail.

His initial sentence sparked a furor in Vermont and across the nation mostly through several radio and television talk shows which focused on the 60-day figure.

The public outcry was impetus for the state to reconsider its decision about Hulett's treatment. Recently the Corrections Department announced it would provide treatment to Hulett while in prison.

This morning, Cashman heard arguments from prosecutor Robert Simpson, who argued for more jail time, and Hulett's attorney Mark Kaplan, who argued that the original sentence was just.

After hearing the arguments, Cashman read a prepared statement that included his order changing the minimum jail time to three years. He said he changed the minimum because the state was now going to provide the treatment in jail. He said had that prison treatment been available at the first sentencing, he would have required a three-year not a 60-day minimum.

[Nevada West]

Actually if you put me in a room with Billy I would most likely kick the crap out of that asshole.

are you allowed over the border?
and why would you say such a thing?
Vermont and Vermonters are quite tolerant of Child molesters.
Yes i know that the charges against Rick are federal charges, but the people of Vermont do not raise their voices loud enough for the goverment to do a thing about the judges that that are on the most part allowing such actions to go on with just a slap on the wrist.
And when someone outside the radical left media come along and points this out to you , you want to kick his ass?
Dude your f-ed in the head for even having those thoughts that ramble about in your empty head!

Boy way to take things out of context idiot. You always do and jump to completely the wrong conclusions. Bill O'Reilly is an ass. Plain and simple. He is a bully. When his points are being destroyed all he does is yell and drown people out. He won't even accept someone else's opinion. He is just as bad as the liberal left media. You have a hard time finding truth in any of his sh*t sometimes.

FYI. I'm a registered Independent. And yes being an American, retired Marine Officer I have no problem crossing the border. Thanks for being so concerned

Registered in Canada?
oh, flying off the handle and calling someone an idiot right off the bat is so hot!
i guess that you are not ready to have an adult conversation about issues that bother you.
Eat the apple Fvck the Core!

Well after looking at what you wrote under your avitar photo. Many of your other posts. The way you automatically racially attacked me because you figure I'm a French Canadian, and the oh so many times you keep using that insult. Well Idiot fits you perfectly.

Racially attacked? WTF are you talking about? Since when are French Canadians their own race? Perhaps ethnicity would be the more appropriate term. Throwing "race" into every matter is irresponsible to say the least.

[Coydog]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

[KBL Ed]

[Bubba]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

Wait, please, don't let facts get in the way of people's f-d up opinions.

This is KZone...facts are generally irrelevant; only rumor and opinions matter.

[Bling Skier]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

"distortions"

let me quote Obama him self..."Words mean things"
Ungowa-black powah!

[Coydog]

But you agree that O'Reilly did not report the whole Cashman story, eh?

[Humpty Dumpty]

Did you people know that Highway Star can ski 70 mph in four inches of powder? I feel this is important to add to this discussion.

[Coydog]

Did you people know that Highway Star can ski 70 mph in four inches of powder? I feel this is important to add to this discussion.

Are you sure that's the whole story or did you hear it from O'Reilly ?

[Humpty Dumpty]

Did you people know that Highway Star can ski 70 mph in four inches of powder? I feel this is important to add to this discussion.

Are you sure that's the whole story or did you hear it from O'Reilly ?

O'Reilly was quoting lil' Kev from his post on Epicski.com, so it must be true.

[JB007]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

No I just have problems with states that go easy on child molesters/pornographers. It is not the people of Vermont or other states that is the problem. It's appointed judges that are the problem.

[Coydog]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

No I just have problems with states that go easy on child molesters/pornographers. It is not the people of Vermont or other states that is the problem. It's appointed judges that are the problem.

Understood.

Do you have specific examples of decisions by Vermont courts in this regard?

[JB007]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

No I just have problems with states that go easy on child molesters/pornographers. It is not the people of Vermont or other states that is the problem. It's appointed judges that are the problem.

Understood.

Do you have specific examples of decisions by Vermont courts in this regard?

Go to your local law enforement. Ask them for a listing of the convicted childmolesters in the area. Ask to see charge specifications. They have to show you this. Then look at the ammount of time they actually got.

Then ask yourself why some states still refused to pass laws to protect children and not lock up the people stealing their lives and just slapping them on the wrist.

[Coydog]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

No I just have problems with states that go easy on child molesters/pornographers. It is not the people of Vermont or other states that is the problem. It's appointed judges that are the problem.

Understood.

Do you have specific examples of decisions by Vermont courts in this regard?

Go to your local law enforement. Ask them for a listing of the convicted childmolesters in the area. Ask to see charge specifications. They have to show you this. Then look at the ammount of time they actually got.

Then ask yourself why some states still refused to pass laws to protect children and not lock up the people stealing their lives and just slapping them on the wrist.

I'll take that as a no.

[JB007]

In any case, without attacking either, it seems to me that JB007and Bling are in agreement in their belief that Vermont and Vermonters are somehow tolerant of child molestation and child pornography – please correct me if I’m wrong here.

This perception may be based partly on the misrepresentation and misunderstanding of the Cashman decision as spread by O’Reilly and others.

IMHO, this process is is somewhat reminiscent of the recent U-Tube sound bite distortions suggested by Bling’s avatar - but that’s a topic for another thread.

No I just have problems with states that go easy on child molesters/pornographers. It is not the people of Vermont or other states that is the problem. It's appointed judges that are the problem.

Understood.

Do you have specific examples of decisions by Vermont courts in this regard?

Go to your local law enforement. Ask them for a listing of the convicted childmolesters in the area. Ask to see charge specifications. They have to show you this. Then look at the ammount of time they actually got.

Then ask yourself why some states still refused to pass laws to protect children and not lock up the people stealing their lives and just slapping them on the wrist.

I'll take that as a no.

Doing research now on sex offenders in Vermont through public prison records. Child Watch groups actually has most of the info. Give me a week or two to put it all together for you.