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Tipping Advice
I recall we recently had several threads that discussed tipping - percentages, whether to tip with or without tax, etc.. This article showed up this afternoon on Yahoo so I figured I'd post it.
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Are You Tipping Correctly?
By Reader's Digest Magazine | Financially Fit – Thu, Jan 5, 2012 4:54 PM EST
While most of us agree that 20 percent (or close to it) is the standard amount to leave on a restaurant check, other tipping-related matters leave us scratching our heads. To settle these debates once and for all, Steve Dublanica, former server and author of the blog Waiter Rant and recent book Keep the Change: A Clueless Tipper's Quest to Become the Guru of the Gratuity, weighs in on some hot-button issues.
1. SHOULD YOU TIP ON THE TAX?
On one hand: There's no reason to tip on the tax. The restaurant doesn't get to keep tax money. When gratuity is automatically included on a check for a large party, it's added pretax.
On the other: When most servers total their sales at the end of the night, they include the tax in the amount. This "cash-out" amount determines how much they tip out to busboys, runners, and other staff members. By not tipping on tax, you're stiffing them out of their fair share.
Steve's verdict: "I like it when you do, but you don't have to tip on the tax."
2. WHAT IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT TO TIP ON DRINKS?
On one hand: Twenty percent is way too much - it's just a drink! The standard in most bars is $1 for each beverage or 10 percent, which generally adds up to $1. Bartenders are tipped out by other members of the staff, so they are walking away with plenty of money.
On the other: Bartenders do more work than servers because they're the ones actually making the drinks, not the server. They deserve the full 20 percent.
Steve's verdict: "[At the bar] you should leave 15 to 20 percent of the total cost of that drink, which may seem kind of ridiculous. But think of it this way: At the table, you're paying 15 to 20 percent. Why does the bartender not get that money, but the waiter - who doesn't make those drinks - does?"
3. DO YOU ALWAYS TIP YOUR BARISTA?
On one hand: Yes. They're skilled workers and deserve tips just as much as other food-service employees.
On the other: Baristas make a decent hourly wage, unlike servers, and they don't work for tips. Besides, what's the point of tipping them if they don't see you put the money in the jar?
Steve's verdict: "I learned when I worked as a barista that if you get a cup of coffee and give us the change from buying that cup, we're really grateful. But I've seen people order one of these frothy iced milk latte-type chemistry experiments - which can be more complicated to prepare than a martini - and then not tip. For baristas who make you one of these, tip a dollar."
See also: 13 Things Your Barista Won't Tell You
4. WHEN, IF EVER, IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO LEAVE A BAD TIP?
On one hand: Never. Even if your server really, really screws up, the tip money is being distributed to multiple employees of the restaurant. If you're unhappy with your server, it's not fair to penalize the busboy, bartender, food runners, and other employees who depend on this money to make their living.
On the other: It's OK to leave a bad tip if you receive bad service. It's your right as a customer, and it will send a message of displeasure to the restaurant.
Steve's verdict: "I don't suggest stiffing servers on the tip, because you are punishing all the other people connected to that food chain. I tell people to talk to the manager and say, 'I had very poor service, but I'm leaving a tip anyway.'"
See also: 20 Secrets Your Waiter Won't Tell You
5. SHOULD A SERVER BE ABLE TO AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE GRATUITY IF IT'S NOT A LARGE GROUP?
On one hand: Yes, in certain cases. Many tourists from other countries don't understand the tipping protocol in the United States. Servers have a right to protect themselves.
On the other: It's outrageous for a server to include the tip unless it's a large group. Legally, servers don't have the right to make the customer pay any gratuity.
Steve's verdict: "If you were to include a service charge automatically, you would have to tell everyone who walks in that you're adding a 20 percent service charge. I don't support waiters deciding who they're going to attach a tip to. That's not their job - that's management's job - and they need to have a very well thought-out policy about why they're doing that."
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Are You Tipping Correctly?
By Reader's Digest Magazine | Financially Fit – Thu, Jan 5, 2012 4:54 PM EST
While most of us agree that 20 percent (or close to it) is the standard amount to leave on a restaurant check, other tipping-related matters leave us scratching our heads. To settle these debates once and for all, Steve Dublanica, former server and author of the blog Waiter Rant and recent book Keep the Change: A Clueless Tipper's Quest to Become the Guru of the Gratuity, weighs in on some hot-button issues.
1. SHOULD YOU TIP ON THE TAX?
On one hand: There's no reason to tip on the tax. The restaurant doesn't get to keep tax money. When gratuity is automatically included on a check for a large party, it's added pretax.
On the other: When most servers total their sales at the end of the night, they include the tax in the amount. This "cash-out" amount determines how much they tip out to busboys, runners, and other staff members. By not tipping on tax, you're stiffing them out of their fair share.
Steve's verdict: "I like it when you do, but you don't have to tip on the tax."
2. WHAT IS THE CORRECT AMOUNT TO TIP ON DRINKS?
On one hand: Twenty percent is way too much - it's just a drink! The standard in most bars is $1 for each beverage or 10 percent, which generally adds up to $1. Bartenders are tipped out by other members of the staff, so they are walking away with plenty of money.
On the other: Bartenders do more work than servers because they're the ones actually making the drinks, not the server. They deserve the full 20 percent.
Steve's verdict: "[At the bar] you should leave 15 to 20 percent of the total cost of that drink, which may seem kind of ridiculous. But think of it this way: At the table, you're paying 15 to 20 percent. Why does the bartender not get that money, but the waiter - who doesn't make those drinks - does?"
3. DO YOU ALWAYS TIP YOUR BARISTA?
On one hand: Yes. They're skilled workers and deserve tips just as much as other food-service employees.
On the other: Baristas make a decent hourly wage, unlike servers, and they don't work for tips. Besides, what's the point of tipping them if they don't see you put the money in the jar?
Steve's verdict: "I learned when I worked as a barista that if you get a cup of coffee and give us the change from buying that cup, we're really grateful. But I've seen people order one of these frothy iced milk latte-type chemistry experiments - which can be more complicated to prepare than a martini - and then not tip. For baristas who make you one of these, tip a dollar."
See also: 13 Things Your Barista Won't Tell You
4. WHEN, IF EVER, IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO LEAVE A BAD TIP?
On one hand: Never. Even if your server really, really screws up, the tip money is being distributed to multiple employees of the restaurant. If you're unhappy with your server, it's not fair to penalize the busboy, bartender, food runners, and other employees who depend on this money to make their living.
On the other: It's OK to leave a bad tip if you receive bad service. It's your right as a customer, and it will send a message of displeasure to the restaurant.
Steve's verdict: "I don't suggest stiffing servers on the tip, because you are punishing all the other people connected to that food chain. I tell people to talk to the manager and say, 'I had very poor service, but I'm leaving a tip anyway.'"
See also: 20 Secrets Your Waiter Won't Tell You
5. SHOULD A SERVER BE ABLE TO AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE GRATUITY IF IT'S NOT A LARGE GROUP?
On one hand: Yes, in certain cases. Many tourists from other countries don't understand the tipping protocol in the United States. Servers have a right to protect themselves.
On the other: It's outrageous for a server to include the tip unless it's a large group. Legally, servers don't have the right to make the customer pay any gratuity.
Steve's verdict: "If you were to include a service charge automatically, you would have to tell everyone who walks in that you're adding a 20 percent service charge. I don't support waiters deciding who they're going to attach a tip to. That's not their job - that's management's job - and they need to have a very well thought-out policy about why they're doing that."
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6. DO YOU, AND IF SO, HOW MUCH DO YOU TIP YOUR SKI INSTRUCTOR?
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tip heavy and often folks!
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I don't agree with "Steve" on many of these, lol.
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I keep seeing "Tripping Advice"... haaha.
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In addition, to improve service when getting skis mounted. I will bring at least a 6 pack of good beer.
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Senor Bubba....you live in Vt, all you should be concerned with is tipping las vacas.
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Dedo En Mi Chili wrote:Senor Bubba....you live in Vt, all you should be concerned with is tipping las vacas.
Senor Dedo, yo nunca he sido proporcionado servicio por una vaca, así yo no sé nada acerca de inclinarlos.
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Zee ski pole has 3 parts. 1st zee shaft. It supports the rest and is rigid. 2nd is the grip for which you hold onto. Finally zeer ist zee tip. zee tip is the most important part und you should remember zis at the end of zee lesson!ME2VTSkier wrote:6. DO YOU, AND IF SO, HOW MUCH DO YOU TIP YOUR SKI INSTRUCTOR?
Depends upon what you pay and can afford. If you are in a private you need to think about an hourly rate. Groups a daily rate etc. I ain't figured it out yet, mostly 'cause I never take lessons, much, and am poor.
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Around 10% for an all-day group lesson. Really interested in others so I could adjust upwards if needed. I'd hate to under-tip.ME2VTSkier wrote:6. DO YOU, AND IF SO, HOW MUCH DO YOU TIP YOUR SKI INSTRUCTOR?
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wasn't andyz an expert on tipping etiquette ...
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