Non-skiers at Peak Lodge

[Mister Moose]

I do have issues with people saving entire tables, at the peak lodge or anywhere else on the mountain.

This. Same issue as private cars.

If you aren't in the building, you don't get your seat saved.

[madhatter]

does a lift ticket cost the same if you are not skiing?

It is 10 dollars.

I have no problem with non skiers/riders coming up and occupying seats, however just like any restaurant, they should be putting money in the til, paying their rent so to speak. I do have issues with people saving entire tables, at the peak lodge or anywhere else on the mountain. Peak lodge seats about 300; there are more than 10000 people on the hill when it is busy. The lodge is the "new thing" and lots of people want to see it; gotta turn the tables 30x if everyone actually goes in and sits for a bit. Not going to happen.

try to eat lunch in the lodge at pico on the wknds, the parking lot is full, the lodge is jam packed and the hill is empty...Been too damn cold to tailgate most of january though...Seems every table has a mom w a book or laptop and piles of food, saving a dozen chairs for their "people"...the new lodge is great for the adaptive program,giving it the space it lacked previously, but it did nothing to help the situation at the main lodge...

[Bubba]

If someone is sitting there alone "saving a table", just ask them when their friends or family are expected. If they don't know, they can't save it all day.

[Mister Moose]

I just ask if I/we can sit here until 'they' show up. 95 times out of 100 'they' don't show during the 20 minutes I need the table.

[Terrapin Station]

Was in the Lodge a few weeks ago on a busy Saturday afternoon and one woman had commandeered an entire couch for herself and friends, with jackets and newspapers all over the couch. By the looks of it, she had been there all day. Glass of ice water was on the coffee table.

Peak was jamming and people were looking for places to sit down and eat. Was there for about an hour and observed. Despite numerous requests, she shooed everyone away but not once did anyone else come and sit with her while I was there. So that is just not cool.

[millerm277]

I think the real lesson here is that the rest of Killington's lodges and the F&B operations in them desperately need upgrades to match. Until then, it's going to be overwhelmed on a regular basis.

The food up top is far better for not much additional cost and the ambiance far nicer. If you didn't bring a lunch, I don't know why you'd eat anywhere else on the mountain. And if you're taking a break, the Peak is clearly far more comfortable to do it in.

Personally, I'd blow up KBL and build something bigger and better there. It's certainly got the worst ergonomics of any of the lodges between the jam packed transition from main floor to bar area, the rental shop in the basement, the awkward second floor, etc.

[madhatter]

I think the real lesson here is that the rest of Killington's lodges and the F&B operations in them desperately need upgrades to match. Until then, it's going to be overwhelmed on a regular basis.

The food up top is far better for not much additional cost and the ambiance far nicer. If you didn't bring a lunch, I don't know why you'd eat anywhere else on the mountain. And if you're taking a break, the Peak is clearly far more comfortable to do it in.

Personally, I'd blow up KBL and build something bigger and better there. It's certainly got the worst ergonomics of any of the lodges between the jam packed transition from main floor to bar area, the rental shop in the basement, the awkward second floor, etc.

[Big Bob]

On busy days perhaps a cover charge of $20 could be charged at the door and could be redeemed for food and beverages, Good for 2 hours and then pay again or out the door you go.

[Powderputz]

"A couple of weeks ago there several tables of lone non-skiers saving tables for their families. We found seats, ate lunch and left and two of thoses tables remained empty except for Mom saving table. Very annoying."

Last year, when KBL was superjammed, folks "reserved" tables by placing a mitten on one chair and a hat on another. I spoke to the KBL lodge manager and she immediately walked over the person and informed her that while diners with food are standing around with a tray full of food are waiting for tables, it really isn't right to sit there with a book and hold four, five or six spots "reserved" for your family or friends.

The offender reluctantly obliged.

Speak to Scott Harrison and bring it to his attention. Last week, at the Peak Lodge, a man sat alone at a table for four for well over an hour. He was busy with his computer. No food, no beverages, just his computer, and a bag on one chair and a hat on another and glove on the third chair. No manager was present to deal with this. There were only a few folks standing around looking for a table. However, this IS an issue when dozens of folks are standing around with a trayful of food.

In a pinch, I first ask, "Is your party HERE at the lodge?" I'll query the person: I'll ask, "Are they inline buying food as we speak?" If that is the case, I move on. If I get hesitation, then I know the sitter is in the reserve mode, and NO ONE is in line getting food. So, I just sit down and tell the person "I'll get up the instant your party arrives". The "party" of others never does arrive. (But if they did, I'd get up instantly). If the person objects, I tell him he can discuss the issue with management. THEY NEVER DO. They either sit there, or get up and leave. It could be considered confrontational; if so, SCREW the selfish ass*^&$ because they are dead wrong to "reserve" the table.

NOTE: Many dining establishments don't seat customers UNTIL the entire party arrives.

[mlkrgr]

Here's how to resolve it: bring a nice big turkey sandwich for lunch from home and put it in your pocket. When it comes time for lunch, ski down to skyeship base and you have 12 minutes to "leisurely" eat your lunch in the gondi car. Have it with a bottled water and a larabar, and you have a meal. The views are just as nice :).

[brownman]

afaik ... except for the corner bar chairs, there is no reserved seating in the Peak Lodge

[steamboat1]

Here's how to resolve it: bring a nice big turkey sandwich for lunch from home and put it in your pocket. When it comes time for lunch, ski down to skyeship base and you have 12 minutes to "leisurely" eat your lunch in the gondi car. Have it with a bottled water and a larabar, and you have a meal. The views are just as nice :).

Extra mayo on that sandwich?

[Stache]

Their green is the same as your green. They pay the toll they're good to go. It's not us against them. It's about having a good time and enjoying both the skiing and the social side of the sport. Lighten up Francis.

[Mtn Man]

Most high traffic ski lodge bars around the PNW have a 2 hour limit. Some even say, "No Ipads, laptops, tablets in this area". There is always a place to camp for non-skiers though, but it's usually not in a peak lodge. Sorta like the no brown bag policy in the cafeteria, but they are allowed in the lower level type of deal.

B)

[madhatter]

Most high traffic ski lodge bars around the PNW have a 2 hour limit. Some even say, "No Ipads, laptops, tablets in this area". There is always a place to camp for non-skiers though, but it's usually not in a peak lodge. Sorta like the no brown bag policy in the cafeteria, but they are allowed in the lower level type of deal.

B)

good point