Nyknicks4412 wrote:
The argument about having a sanctioned event for gay people at killington is not so much the off chance that children may see something or that patrons will have to be around gay people throughout the day. Let's face it we see this stuff on a regular basis. The argument is that as a business killington should leave the politics alone and let anyone who pleases come up and enjoy the resort. They don't need to throw a specific party just for gay people it's simply unnecessary as it is a controversial topic for many as should be obvious by the small sample response in this thread. Would you all be in support of a resort throwing catholic weekend? What about hetero weekend? I would doubt it...you'd call them bigots. You can't compare jack Daniels weekend where killington is partnering with another private business on the same scale as hosting a weekend centered around social issue in the country today
Gets back to the question about Killington doing this for profit and not for pride. No one is commenting on the fact that Killington is doing this to increase their bottom line. If Killington thought this would cost them revenue, they never would have done this event. Maybe Killington should be boycotted that weekend for getting involved in what is a political debate for profit.
It's the second one, they must have made money on the first one... Killington has welcomed specific groups with special events in the past, outside of the LGBT. College weeks (two college weeks with activities). Triathletes (triathlon). Wine and beer enthusiasts (Beer and wine festivals). Religiophiles (Easter services, egg hunts). Women (women specific camps and clinics). Cycling events, motorcycle events, and on and on. Most of which have nothing to do with skiing, except that all these folks ski.
Are you offended that college kids get special treatment and have two weeks of special events just for them? Why?
yes, everyone should boycott Killington this weekend..please get on that right away. As much as I dont want to be around the gays I will sacrafice myself to make sure the boycott goes off without a hitch and report the attendance numbers on Monday morning
daytripper wrote:Whats really sad about the world we live in is that this is such an issue.
all public displays of deviant behavior garner attention... Open carry is a legal in VT but no one does, guess why? can you imagine the ruckus an openly displayed piece would cause if seen in the K -1 gondi line? between 30% and 40% of the US population own a firearm... nearly 10 times the estimated number of gays...no one has to tell gun owners to " not display in public" they just don't for obvious reasons...despite their perfectly legal right to do so...
the problem w this entire issue seems to stem from those who want this deviant behavior to become the norm and thus become not -deviant... w/o addressing any of the reasons WHY it isn't the norm...
ideas so good they're mandatory...
mach es sehr schnell
'exponential reciprocation'- The practice of always giving back more than you take....
What does it take to convert a snow gun to a bubble machine? From Maddhatter's first picture they really like bubbles. Seriously, no need for a boycott. Killington has the right to host and they have the right to come and have fun. This could grow into a very lucrative event for the mountain. For those of us that feel it is not our cup of tea no one is forcing us to go. No need to r*in on their parade. I do not accept it, but I can tolerate it I think that is all they are asking for.
Nyknicks4412 wrote:
The argument about having a sanctioned event for gay people at killington is not so much the off chance that children may see something or that patrons will have to be around gay people throughout the day. Let's face it we see this stuff on a regular basis. The argument is that as a business killington should leave the politics alone and let anyone who pleases come up and enjoy the resort. They don't need to throw a specific party just for gay people it's simply unnecessary as it is a controversial topic for many as should be obvious by the small sample response in this thread. Would you all be in support of a resort throwing catholic weekend? What about hetero weekend? I would doubt it...you'd call them bigots. You can't compare jack Daniels weekend where killington is partnering with another private business on the same scale as hosting a weekend centered around social issue in the country today
Gets back to the question about Killington doing this for profit and not for pride. No one is commenting on the fact that Killington is doing this to increase their bottom line. If Killington thought this would cost them revenue, they never would have done this event. Maybe Killington should be boycotted that weekend for getting involved in what is a political debate for profit.
It's the second one, they must have made money on the first one... Killington has welcomed specific groups with special events in the past, outside of the LGBT. College weeks (two college weeks with activities). Triathletes (triathlon). Wine and beer enthusiasts (Beer and wine festivals). Religiophiles (Easter services, egg hunts). Women (women specific camps and clinics). Cycling events, motorcycle events, and on and on. Most of which have nothing to do with skiing, except that all these folks ski.
Are you offended that college kids get special treatment and have two weeks of special events just for them? Why?
None of those events are being shoved down our thoats on a daily basis. That's the main opposition to this event, it's part of what is being forced upon us on a daily basis.
Nyknicks4412 wrote:
The argument about having a sanctioned event for gay people at killington is not so much the off chance that children may see something or that patrons will have to be around gay people throughout the day. Let's face it we see this stuff on a regular basis. The argument is that as a business killington should leave the politics alone and let anyone who pleases come up and enjoy the resort. They don't need to throw a specific party just for gay people it's simply unnecessary as it is a controversial topic for many as should be obvious by the small sample response in this thread. Would you all be in support of a resort throwing catholic weekend? What about hetero weekend? I would doubt it...you'd call them bigots. You can't compare jack Daniels weekend where killington is partnering with another private business on the same scale as hosting a weekend centered around social issue in the country today
Gets back to the question about Killington doing this for profit and not for pride. No one is commenting on the fact that Killington is doing this to increase their bottom line. If Killington thought this would cost them revenue, they never would have done this event. Maybe Killington should be boycotted that weekend for getting involved in what is a political debate for profit.
It's the second one, they must have made money on the first one... Killington has welcomed specific groups with special events in the past, outside of the LGBT. College weeks (two college weeks with activities). Triathletes (triathlon). Wine and beer enthusiasts (Beer and wine festivals). Religiophiles (Easter services, egg hunts). Women (women specific camps and clinics). Cycling events, motorcycle events, and on and on. Most of which have nothing to do with skiing, except that all these folks ski.
Are you offended that college kids get special treatment and have two weeks of special events just for them? Why?
None of those events are being shoved down our thoats on a daily basis. That's the main opposition to this event, it's part of what is being forced upon us on a daily basis.
yup, ideas so good they're mandatory...
mach es sehr schnell
'exponential reciprocation'- The practice of always giving back more than you take....
I heard rumor there will be drag karaoke at the Umbrella bar sponsored by the Governor Bradford in P Town featuring well know stars such as "Kitty Litter" and "Connie Slocum"
f.a.s.t. wrote:None of those events are being shoved down our thoats on a daily basis. That's the main opposition to this event, it's part of what is being forced upon us on a daily basis.
Huh? Please 'splain me. How is K's alleged pride weekend being forced down your throat on a daily basis?
As I'm not sure I understand your point, this may not be relevant, but: it can easily be argued that obnoxious/misbehaving college students do a LOT more damage to the community than gays. Way more.
madhatter wrote:all public displays of deviant behavior garner attention...
Is this why your posts are so hateful and obnoxious, you are just hoping to get attention?
why are you such an idiot? that post is 100% accurate and factual, nothing hateful , obnoxious or deviant about. it but your attacks certainly fit the bill... project much? have a nice day DMC...
not a single proponent can effectively provide any kind of argument that doesn't include a personal attack, strawman attack or an intangible "feeling". Facts and reality are readily dismissed in favor of your world view... THAT is a mental illness...
there is a standard in place , provide an argument for changing such...
mach es sehr schnell
'exponential reciprocation'- The practice of always giving back more than you take....
madhatter wrote:all public displays of deviant behavior garner attention...
Is this why your posts are so hateful and obnoxious, you are just hoping to get attention?
...
By making your posts so obnoxious and hateful you cause the rest of us to simply ignore them. We do not care what you are saying, we are too offended at the way you are saying it. Ever wonder why so few of your posts are ever quoted and replied to?
rogman wrote:Finally, “what about the children”. The, “I don’t want to explain to my kids why two guys are holding hands”. In actual practice, the conversation tends to go more along the lines of:
“Daddy, why are those two guys holding hands?”
“Sometimes men like other men, sometimes women like other women”
“Oh. Okay, Can I get some ice cream?”
Inapropriate public displays of affection happen every weekend at Killington and are no more likely to be near where kids are during this LGBT weekend than they are during any other weekend.
IMO no different than the Jack Daniels Girls, the pimps and hos party, the mini skirt party, skimpy bikinis at pond skimming, etc etc.
Sure you might see a couple of dudes making out at the after party at the outback, but no different than a dude a chick making out then either... and I'm not likely to have my kids at the outback / wobbly / pickle late night regardless of there being a primarially hetro or homo sexual crowd..
yep same thing:
note NONE of these pics are late night at a bar...
nor are any of them from last years Killington event...
f.a.s.t. wrote:None of those events are being shoved down our thoats on a daily basis. That's the main opposition to this event, it's part of what is being forced upon us on a daily basis.
Huh? Please 'splain me. How is K's alleged pride weekend being forced down your throat on a daily basis?
As I'm not sure I understand your point, this may not be relevant, but: it can easily be argued that obnoxious/misbehaving college students do a LOT more damage to the community than gays. Way more.
I did not mean that Killington is doing it everyday, I meant that politicians, activist and the media are forcing it upon us everyday. That's what so annoying for me, why does a ski area have to sponser this event and become part of the political debate? That's why I've said for Killington it's about profit, not pride.
