Snowdon Quad Retired!

[daytripper]

Not sure if this is meant to be an insult or compliment.

Yup, that about sums it up!

[Mister Moose]

I doubt the bubble will ever have 15 minute lines. It will have a capacity of 3000/hr which is more than any other lift on the mountain. Even if a lot of people came off the K1 and Ramshead¹ it still takes a hell of a lot of people² to make a lift with that capacity actually have a line.

¹The main source of people on any base lift between 9 and 10:30 am is the parking lot.
²In a perfect world, it only takes in excess of 50 people per minute to show up to create a line. (Sorta like what happens at K1, Ramshead and SPE) In actuality less, due to inevitable empty seats, stoppages, and predictable slower line speeds.

It has been mentioned many times that the Mt Snow 6 pack bubble will have significant lines, even when other available lifts have shorter lines. You're forgetting that those 3,000 people per hour ski back down in 5 minutes and get right back in line.

At 50 people per minute and a 10 minute cycle time (5 minutes up, 5 minutes down), as soon as there are more than 500 people at Snowdon there will be a lift line.

Of course this lift will have long lines on peak Saturdays.

[madhatter]

I doubt the bubble will ever have 15 minute lines. It will have a capacity of 3000/hr which is more than any other lift on the mountain. Even if a lot of people came off the K1 and Ramshead¹ it still takes a hell of a lot of people² to make a lift with that capacity actually have a line.

¹The main source of people on any base lift between 9 and 10:30 am is the parking lot.
²In a perfect world, it only takes in excess of 50 people per minute to show up to create a line. (Sorta like what happens at K1, Ramshead and SPE) In actuality less, due to inevitable empty seats, stoppages, and predictable slower line speeds.

It has been mentioned many times that the Mt Snow 6 pack bubble will have significant lines, even when other available lifts have shorter lines. You're forgetting that those 3,000 people per hour ski back down in 5 minutes and get right back in line.

At 50 people per minute and a 10 minute cycle time (5 minutes up, 5 minutes down), as soon as there are more than 500 people at Snowdon there will be a lift line.

Of course this lift will have long lines on peak Saturdays.

those people can't be everywhere at once...the line will be shorter somewhere....

[Stormchaser]

I doubt the bubble will ever have 15 minute lines. It will have a capacity of 3000/hr which is more than any other lift on the mountain. Even if a lot of people came off the K1 and Ramshead¹ it still takes a hell of a lot of people² to make a lift with that capacity actually have a line.

¹The main source of people on any base lift between 9 and 10:30 am is the parking lot.
²In a perfect world, it only takes in excess of 50 people per minute to show up to create a line. (Sorta like what happens at K1, Ramshead and SPE) In actuality less, due to inevitable empty seats, stoppages, and predictable slower line speeds.

It has been mentioned many times that the Mt Snow 6 pack bubble will have significant lines, even when other available lifts have shorter lines. You're forgetting that those 3,000 people per hour ski back down in 5 minutes and get right back in line.

At 50 people per minute and a 10 minute cycle time (5 minutes up, 5 minutes down), as soon as there are more than 500 people at Snowdon there will be a lift line.

Of course this lift will have long lines on peak Saturdays.

those people can't be everywhere at once...the line will be shorter somewhere....

Every high speed lift at K has the worst lift lines on the mountain. High speed lifts create long lift lines...FACT!

[madhatter]

I doubt the bubble will ever have 15 minute lines. It will have a capacity of 3000/hr which is more than any other lift on the mountain. Even if a lot of people came off the K1 and Ramshead¹ it still takes a hell of a lot of people² to make a lift with that capacity actually have a line.

¹The main source of people on any base lift between 9 and 10:30 am is the parking lot.
²In a perfect world, it only takes in excess of 50 people per minute to show up to create a line. (Sorta like what happens at K1, Ramshead and SPE) In actuality less, due to inevitable empty seats, stoppages, and predictable slower line speeds.

It has been mentioned many times that the Mt Snow 6 pack bubble will have significant lines, even when other available lifts have shorter lines. You're forgetting that those 3,000 people per hour ski back down in 5 minutes and get right back in line.

At 50 people per minute and a 10 minute cycle time (5 minutes up, 5 minutes down), as soon as there are more than 500 people at Snowdon there will be a lift line.

Of course this lift will have long lines on peak Saturdays.

those people can't be everywhere at once...the line will be shorter somewhere....

Every high speed lift at K has the worst lift lines on the mountain. High speed lifts create long lift lines...FACT!

ah so if we go back to t-bars and pomas we can alleviate lift lines?

[Stormchaser]

I doubt the bubble will ever have 15 minute lines. It will have a capacity of 3000/hr which is more than any other lift on the mountain. Even if a lot of people came off the K1 and Ramshead¹ it still takes a hell of a lot of people² to make a lift with that capacity actually have a line.

¹The main source of people on any base lift between 9 and 10:30 am is the parking lot.
²In a perfect world, it only takes in excess of 50 people per minute to show up to create a line. (Sorta like what happens at K1, Ramshead and SPE) In actuality less, due to inevitable empty seats, stoppages, and predictable slower line speeds.

It has been mentioned many times that the Mt Snow 6 pack bubble will have significant lines, even when other available lifts have shorter lines. You're forgetting that those 3,000 people per hour ski back down in 5 minutes and get right back in line.

At 50 people per minute and a 10 minute cycle time (5 minutes up, 5 minutes down), as soon as there are more than 500 people at Snowdon there will be a lift line.

Of course this lift will have long lines on peak Saturdays.

those people can't be everywhere at once...the line will be shorter somewhere....

Every high speed lift at K has the worst lift lines on the mountain. High speed lifts create long lift lines...FACT!

ah so if we go back to t-bars and pomas we can alleviate lift lines?

If everyone is on the lift, they ain't standing in line... Pretty simple actually. Store all those bodies on the lift - no lines.

[madhatter]

better yet, skin or hike up only...no lines...that's how they did it at tuckermans...

[Stormchaser]

better yet, skin or hike up only...no lines...that's how they did it at tuckermans...

Still looks like a line to me...

Fixed grips provide skier storage in a location that hides the level of crowding. It's painfully awful pulling into K1 to see the Superstar maze back to the UBar, the K1 back to the base lodge, and now an effin giant Snowdon line too. Bear already sucks without enough skier storage and horrendous lift lines. Ramshead isn't much better as the lines there get insane too.

Killington is chasing the industry standard without evidence it's really beneficial to their customers, but hey global warming is causing sea level rise and Killington should be building water tight lifts that can operate under water because global gloom and doom is coming. I swear no one has an independent mind anymore... I blame the morons at POWDR.

[madhatter]

better yet, skin or hike up only...no lines...that's how they did it at tuckermans...

Still looks like a line to me...yup, cuz lifts don;t cause lines, people wanting to get uphill do...

Fixed grips provide skier storage in a location that hides the level of crowding. It's painfully awful pulling into K1 to see the Superstar maze back to the UBar, the K1 back to the base lodge, and now an effin giant Snowdon line too. Bear already sucks without enough skier storage and horrendous lift lines. Ramshead isn't much better as the lines there get insane too.

Killington is chasing the industry standard without evidence it's really beneficial to their customers, but hey global warming is causing sea level rise and Killington should be building water tight lifts that can operate under water because global gloom and doom is coming. I swear no one has an independent mind anymore... I blame the morons at POWDR.

rare is the day I wait in a line, maybe yer doing it wrong?

[daytripper]

better yet, skin or hike up only...no lines...that's how they did it at tuckermans...

Still looks like a line to me...yup, cuz lifts don;t cause lines, people wanting to get uphill do...

Fixed grips provide skier storage in a location that hides the level of crowding. It's painfully awful pulling into K1 to see the Superstar maze back to the UBar, the K1 back to the base lodge, and now an effin giant Snowdon line too. Bear already sucks without enough skier storage and horrendous lift lines. Ramshead isn't much better as the lines there get insane too.

Killington is chasing the industry standard without evidence it's really beneficial to their customers, but hey global warming is causing sea level rise and Killington should be building water tight lifts that can operate under water because global gloom and doom is coming. I swear no one has an independent mind anymore... I blame the morons at POWDR.

rare is the day I wait in a line, maybe yer doing it wrong?

We are doing it wrong by skiing weekends, but unfortunately we have to work during the week.

[Stormchaser]

better yet, skin or hike up only...no lines...that's how they did it at tuckermans...

Still looks like a line to me...yup, cuz lifts don;t cause lines, people wanting to get uphill do...

Fixed grips provide skier storage in a location that hides the level of crowding. It's painfully awful pulling into K1 to see the Superstar maze back to the UBar, the K1 back to the base lodge, and now an effin giant Snowdon line too. Bear already sucks without enough skier storage and horrendous lift lines. Ramshead isn't much better as the lines there get insane too.

Killington is chasing the industry standard without evidence it's really beneficial to their customers, but hey global warming is causing sea level rise and Killington should be building water tight lifts that can operate under water because global gloom and doom is coming. I swear no one has an independent mind anymore... I blame the morons at POWDR.

rare is the day I wait in a line, maybe yer doing it wrong?

When all the world is retired, it won't matter.

[madhatter]

better yet, skin or hike up only...no lines...that's how they did it at tuckermans...

Still looks like a line to me...yup, cuz lifts don;t cause lines, people wanting to get uphill do...

Fixed grips provide skier storage in a location that hides the level of crowding. It's painfully awful pulling into K1 to see the Superstar maze back to the UBar, the K1 back to the base lodge, and now an effin giant Snowdon line too. Bear already sucks without enough skier storage and horrendous lift lines. Ramshead isn't much better as the lines there get insane too.

Killington is chasing the industry standard without evidence it's really beneficial to their customers, but hey global warming is causing sea level rise and Killington should be building water tight lifts that can operate under water because global gloom and doom is coming. I swear no one has an independent mind anymore... I blame the morons at POWDR.

rare is the day I wait in a line, maybe yer doing it wrong?

We are doing it wrong by skiing weekends, but unfortunately we have to work during the week.

I ski nearly every saturday and sunday...rarely stand in a line...longest one is usually at skye chair...only way out of bear for the masses...line would be even bigger with a fixed chair there....

[TreeRunner]

Lift lines increasing or not, I'm still excited to have a fast lift servicing Snowdon. Weekdays will be great getting in laps there compared to now, assuming they run it.

[Stormchaser]

I ski nearly every saturday and sunday...rarely stand in a line...longest one is usually at skye chair...only way out of bear for the masses...line would be even bigger with a fixed chair there....

Line was not bigger when a fixed chair WAS there. Revisionist history...so quickly we forget. Bear used to have another fixed grip too, for the busiest days, to help hide those crowds and store them somewhere that isn't highly visible. Lift lines are shorter and/or trails have less bodies when all those skiers and riders are on a lift. If high speed lifts cut the ride in half with no increase in trail loading, all those bodies end up somewhere...IN THE LIFTLINE.

[madhatter]

I ski nearly every saturday and sunday...rarely stand in a line...longest one is usually at skye chair...only way out of bear for the masses...line would be even bigger with a fixed chair there....

Line was not bigger when a fixed chair WAS there. Revisionist history...so quickly we forget. Bear used to have another fixed grip too, for the busiest days,it ran like 3 times in the last 20 yrs... to help hide those crowds and store them somewhere that isn't highly visible.who cares? the goal is to provide access to the snow not "store bodies" Lift lines are shorter and/or trails have less bodies when all those skiers and riders are on a lift. even fewer lines if ya stay home... If high speed lifts cut the ride in half with no increase in trail loading, all those bodies end up somewhere...IN THE LIFTLINE.so what yer saying is the lift needs to be faster going up than it is to ski down? lines form at bottlenecks/choke points...eliminate those you eliminate lines...

yeah I remember no lines at needles double before they put that useless HSQ in there...

again, I rarely wait in lift lines...sounds like this is a you problem...only remedy for that will also come from you...probably be no lines at pico this weekend...

mostly yer just upset that the pass options at K don't allow you to ski elsewhere on the cheap...doubt K is really interested in providing that either...