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A nursing home in Texas has a hopeful story for those suffering with coronavirus.
The Resort at Texas nursing home had an outbreak of coronavirus that infected 56 residents and 33 staff members.

Dr. Robin Armstrong immediately administered hydroxychloroquine to the residents and staff members along with Zpac and Zinc.

Only one nursing home patient died since the doctor prescribed the hydroxychloroquine.
55 made it.
This drug is having amazing success treating the coronavirus.
But the liberal media would rather see people die than report the truth on this treatment.
Dr. Armstrong and others at the Resort at Texas City Nursing home knew time wasn’t on their side.

“Two of our residents had symptoms and that’s when we tested everybody,” said nursing home Executive Director Jan Piveral.

56 residents and 33 staff members were COVID-19 positive.

“Our Goal was to make sure we could shelter them in place so we don’t spread it to other people,” Armstrong said. “Then also at the same time treat them so they would get better.”

Armstrong says he knew residents who ended up in the hospital had a higher mortality rate.

“Our goal was to keep them here and treat them with the medications we had available,” he said.

When Armstrong began administering Hydroxychloroquine to it was controversial but appeared promising.

“If we didn’t make the decision quickly then we could potentially lose 15 to 20% of the residents which was not an option,” said the Doctor.

Armstrong’s approach was to begin administering Hydroxychloroquine a Zpac and Zinc just as soon as a resident first started showing symptoms.

The patients were being monitored daily.

“We did EKGs on each of these patients to make sure they didn’t have the cardiac side effects that everyone talks about,” Armstrong said. “None of our patients did.”

Armstrong doesn’t call the Hydroxychloroquine a cure and is aware of all the recent reports that say the drug shouldn’t be used to treat COVID-19.

But he points out only one of the nursing homes COVID-19 patients has died.

“Everyone who got on treatment who started on treatment is actually doing really well,” he said.

nope, not possible... :roll:
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Will be interesting to see how Georgia and S Carolina do. Looks like they will be reopening this week. Will look at these graphs again come the week of May 11 or so.

Georgia followed by S. Carolina.

Note: Guidance via Opening America up Again recommends a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period be satisfied before phasing the reopening of a state.
Why is there no discussion of proportionality, only "downward slope"?

in other words, if a State keeps the number of cases under a certain threshold of medical capacity, such as active Covid cases below 50% of hospital capacity, why not recommend that State to continue a planned incremental re-opening? In large States, shouldn't the evaluation be regional as well?

Why are these charts tabulated in total number of cases, as opposed to a percent of population? Why not also show current cases being treated, instead of merely a historic total? Certainly 1,000 cases in NY means something different than 1,000 cases in SC. GA has twice the population of SC, so equating number of cases is very misleading.

Why is any downward slope even relevant? Why isn't the ability to maintain a level number of cases a recommended goal if the health services capacity is sufficient? Or a slightly positive slope if that positive slope projects to an attainable health services capacity in a months or two timeframe? In other words the ability to ramp up care facilities carries with it the ability to handle a higher number of cases.

So far the analysis is driven by a simple total cases-to-date count, which seems to be a somewhat useless and even misleading metric when taken as a single indicator.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Will be interesting to see how Georgia and S Carolina do. Looks like they will be reopening this week. Will look at these graphs again come the week of May 11 or so.

Georgia followed by S. Carolina.

Note: Guidance via Opening America up Again recommends a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period be satisfied before phasing the reopening of a state.
Why is there no discussion of proportionality, only "downward slope"?

in other words, if a State keeps the number of cases under a certain threshold of medical capacity, such as active Covid cases below 50% of hospital capacity, why not recommend that State to continue a planned incremental re-opening? In large States, shouldn't the evaluation be regional as well?

Why are these charts tabulated in total number of cases, as opposed to a percent of population? Why not also show current cases being treated, instead of merely a historic total? Certainly 1,000 cases in NY means something different than 1,000 cases in SC. GA has twice the population of SC, so equating number of cases is very misleading.

Why is any downward slope even relevant? Why isn't the ability to maintain a level number of cases a recommended goal if the health services capacity is sufficient? Or a slightly positive slope if that positive slope projects to an attainable health services capacity in a months or two timeframe? In other words the ability to ramp up care facilities carries with it the ability to handle a higher number of cases.

So far the analysis is driven by a simple total cases-to-date count, which seems to be a somewhat useless and even misleading metric when taken as a single indicator.
yep useless and misleading metric...by design...

yesterday VT had a spike in "positives" but looking a little deeper they also had a spike in number of tests administered vs the previous day...hospitalizations and deaths remain low and flat...
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Mister Moose wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Will be interesting to see how Georgia and S Carolina do. Looks like they will be reopening this week. Will look at these graphs again come the week of May 11 or so.

Georgia followed by S. Carolina.

Note: Guidance via Opening America up Again recommends a downward trajectory of documented cases within a 14-day period be satisfied before phasing the reopening of a state.
Why is there no discussion of proportionality, only "downward slope"?

in other words, if a State keeps the number of cases under a certain threshold of medical capacity, such as active Covid cases below 50% of hospital capacity, why not recommend that State to continue a planned incremental re-opening? In large States, shouldn't the evaluation be regional as well?

Why are these charts tabulated in total number of cases, as opposed to a percent of population? Why not also show current cases being treated, instead of merely a historic total? Certainly 1,000 cases in NY means something different than 1,000 cases in SC. GA has twice the population of SC, so equating number of cases is very misleading.

Why is any downward slope even relevant? Why isn't the ability to maintain a level number of cases a recommended goal if the health services capacity is sufficient? Or a slightly positive slope if that positive slope projects to an attainable health services capacity in a months or two timeframe? In other words the ability to ramp up care facilities carries with it the ability to handle a higher number of cases.

So far the analysis is driven by a simple total cases-to-date count, which seems to be a somewhat useless and even misleading metric when taken as a single indicator.
That was one of the more important drivers that NH used to start reopening the economy. We have roughly 50% hospital beds available. The covid beds were a very small percentage of total beds occupied. The governor showed a chart depicting this metric
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Moose, my friend [and some other posters here]. Spot on with your recent post.

I will toss something in that you kinda implied. I think a lot of peeps are misled a bit from the data they see on the TV re: number of cases.

If not mistaken, most reports are for "total confirmed cases".

First off, this includes cases from 2 to 3 months ago. Many of these cases have recovered or died. It is NOT the number of confrmed cases "walking about".

On the flipside [sorta] it does not include the actual cases that were not confirmed [i.e., tested and positive, for the most part].

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gee no way? who'd have thunk?

https://nypost.com/2020/05/02/intellige ... ronavirus/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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A leaked dossier compiled by Western intelligence agencies concludes that China lied and deliberately suppressed or destroyed evidence during the crucial early days of the COVID-19 outbreak, and notes that Chinese researchers have been experimenting with - and creating - deadly bat coronaviruses.
evidence was destroyed, and China refused to provide live samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.

The paper obtained by The Saturday Telegraph speaks about “the suppression and destruction of evidence” and points to “virus samples ordered destroyed at genomics labs, wildlife market stalls bleached, the genome sequence not shared publicly, the Shanghai lab closure for ‘rectification’, academic articles subjected to prior review by the Ministry of Science and Technology and data on asymptomatic ‘silent carriers’ kept secret”. -Daily Telegraph
Engineered?

While the leaked dossier does not reach a conclusion whether COVID-19 is of natural origin or engineered, it includes a February 6 study from the South China University of Technology which suggested "the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan.

The paper was withdrawn due to what its lead author said was a lack of direct evidence, however the dossier notes that scholar Yanzhong Huang said on March 5 "No scientists have confirmed or refuted the paper's findings."

That said, the Telegraph notes that the official US position is that the virus was not engineered, but that it escaped from either the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the Chinese CDC, which is located roughly 900 feet from the Wuhan wet market from which a cluster of early cases emerged.
"The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified," said acting Director of National Intelligence, Richard Grenell, adding "The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."

China's 'risky bat research' and creation of deadly viruses

While the international scientific consensus is that COVID-19 wasn't manmade, the Western intelligence dossier highlights research by scientists Shi Zhengli and her protégé Peng Zhou, whose work on bat coronavirus Zero Hedge highlighted in January, and who were modifying bat coronavirus to test its transmissibility to other species.
The Western dossier notes from the study: "To examine the emergence potential (that is, the potential to infect humans) of circulating bat CoVs, we built a chimeric virus encoding a novel, zoonotic CoV spike protein — from the RsSHCO14-CoV sequence that was isolated from Chinese horseshoe bats — in the context of the SARS-CoV mouse-adapted backbone."

"This virus is highly pathogenic and treatments developed against the original SARS virus in 2002 and the ZMapp drugs used to fight ebola fail to neutralise and control this particular virus," said North Carolina University Professor Ralph Baric, a co-author on the 2015 paper.

A few years later, in March 2019, Dr Shi and her team, including Peng Zhou, who worked in Australia for five years, published a review ­titled Bat Coronaviruses in China in the medical journal Viruses, where they wrote that they “aim to predict virus hot spots and their cross-species transmission potential”, describing it as a matter of “urgency to study bat corona­viruses in China to understand their potential of causing another outbreak. Their review stated: “It is highly likely that future SARS or MERS like coronavirus outbreaks will originate from bats, and there is an increased probability that this will occur in China.”

The report notes that Dr. Shi's research continues to this day, telling Scientific American "Bat-borne coronaviruses will cause more outbreaks ... We must find them before they find us."
Key dates in the coverup:

November 9, 2015: Wuhan Institute of Virology publish a study revealing they created a new virus in the lab from SARS-CoV.

December 6, 2019: Five days after a man linked to Wuhan’s seafood market presented pneumonia-like symptoms, his wife contracts it, suggesting human to human transmission.

December 27: China’s health authorities told a novel disease, then affecting some 180 patients, was caused by a new coronavirus.

December 26-30: Evidence of new virus emerges from Wuhan patient data.

December 31: Chinese internet authorities begin censoring terms from social media such as Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.

January 1, 2020: Eight Wuhan doctors who warned about new virus are detained and condemned.

January 3: China’s top health authority issues a gag order.

January 5: Wuhan Municipal Health Commission stops releasing daily updates on new cases. Continues until January 18.

January 10: PRC official Wang Guangfa says outbreak “under control” and mostly a “mild condition”.

January 12: Professor Zhang Yongzhen’s lab in Shanghai is closed by authorities for “rectification”, one day after it shares genomic sequence data with the world for the first time.

January 14: PRC National Health Commission chief Ma Xiaowei privately warns colleagues the virus is likely to develop into a major public health event.

January 24: Officials in Beijing prevent the Wuhan Institute of Virology from sharing sample isolates with the University of Texas.

February 6: China’s internet watchdog tightens controls on social media platforms.

February 9: Citizen-journalist and local businessman Fang Bin disappears.

April 17: Wuhan belatedly raises its official fatalities by 1290.
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madhatter wrote:
A nursing home in Texas has a hopeful story for those suffering with coronavirus.
The Resort at Texas nursing home had an outbreak of coronavirus that infected 56 residents and 33 staff members.

Dr. Robin Armstrong immediately administered hydroxychloroquine to the residents and staff members along with Zpac and Zinc.

Only one nursing home patient died since the doctor prescribed the hydroxychloroquine.
55 made it.
This drug is having amazing success treating the coronavirus.
But the liberal media would rather see people die than report the truth on this treatment.
Dr. Armstrong and others at the Resort at Texas City Nursing home knew time wasn’t on their side.

“Two of our residents had symptoms and that’s when we tested everybody,” said nursing home Executive Director Jan Piveral.

56 residents and 33 staff members were COVID-19 positive.

“Our Goal was to make sure we could shelter them in place so we don’t spread it to other people,” Armstrong said. “Then also at the same time treat them so they would get better.”

Armstrong says he knew residents who ended up in the hospital had a higher mortality rate.

“Our goal was to keep them here and treat them with the medications we had available,” he said.

When Armstrong began administering Hydroxychloroquine to it was controversial but appeared promising.

“If we didn’t make the decision quickly then we could potentially lose 15 to 20% of the residents which was not an option,” said the Doctor.

Armstrong’s approach was to begin administering Hydroxychloroquine a Zpac and Zinc just as soon as a resident first started showing symptoms.

The patients were being monitored daily.

“We did EKGs on each of these patients to make sure they didn’t have the cardiac side effects that everyone talks about,” Armstrong said. “None of our patients did.”

Armstrong doesn’t call the Hydroxychloroquine a cure and is aware of all the recent reports that say the drug shouldn’t be used to treat COVID-19.

But he points out only one of the nursing homes COVID-19 patients has died.

“Everyone who got on treatment who started on treatment is actually doing really well,” he said.

nope, not possible... :roll:
THIS IS CRAZY. :shock:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fox-26- ... hloroquine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Report from 4 days ago - one early death out of 80+ cases, from a situation that has been going on for almost a month. 40% of deaths in Texas are in nursing homes. Heck, the nursing home in my area had over a dozen deaths.
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Highway Star wrote:
madhatter wrote:
A nursing home in Texas has a hopeful story for those suffering with coronavirus.
The Resort at Texas nursing home had an outbreak of coronavirus that infected 56 residents and 33 staff members.

Dr. Robin Armstrong immediately administered hydroxychloroquine to the residents and staff members along with Zpac and Zinc.

Only one nursing home patient died since the doctor prescribed the hydroxychloroquine.
55 made it.
This drug is having amazing success treating the coronavirus.
But the liberal media would rather see people die than report the truth on this treatment.
Dr. Armstrong and others at the Resort at Texas City Nursing home knew time wasn’t on their side.

“Two of our residents had symptoms and that’s when we tested everybody,” said nursing home Executive Director Jan Piveral.

56 residents and 33 staff members were COVID-19 positive.

“Our Goal was to make sure we could shelter them in place so we don’t spread it to other people,” Armstrong said. “Then also at the same time treat them so they would get better.”

Armstrong says he knew residents who ended up in the hospital had a higher mortality rate.

“Our goal was to keep them here and treat them with the medications we had available,” he said.

When Armstrong began administering Hydroxychloroquine to it was controversial but appeared promising.

“If we didn’t make the decision quickly then we could potentially lose 15 to 20% of the residents which was not an option,” said the Doctor.

Armstrong’s approach was to begin administering Hydroxychloroquine a Zpac and Zinc just as soon as a resident first started showing symptoms.

The patients were being monitored daily.

“We did EKGs on each of these patients to make sure they didn’t have the cardiac side effects that everyone talks about,” Armstrong said. “None of our patients did.”

Armstrong doesn’t call the Hydroxychloroquine a cure and is aware of all the recent reports that say the drug shouldn’t be used to treat COVID-19.

But he points out only one of the nursing homes COVID-19 patients has died.

“Everyone who got on treatment who started on treatment is actually doing really well,” he said.

nope, not possible... :roll:
THIS IS CRAZY. :shock:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fox-26- ... hloroquine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Report from 4 days ago - one death out of 80+ cases, from a situation that has been going on for almost a month. 40% of deaths in Texas are in nursing homes. Heck, the nursing home in my area had over a dozen deaths.
Fox News. Must be fake!
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hillbangin wrote:
Highway Star wrote:
madhatter wrote:
A nursing home in Texas has a hopeful story for those suffering with coronavirus.
The Resort at Texas nursing home had an outbreak of coronavirus that infected 56 residents and 33 staff members.

Dr. Robin Armstrong immediately administered hydroxychloroquine to the residents and staff members along with Zpac and Zinc.

Only one nursing home patient died since the doctor prescribed the hydroxychloroquine.
55 made it.
This drug is having amazing success treating the coronavirus.
But the liberal media would rather see people die than report the truth on this treatment.
Dr. Armstrong and others at the Resort at Texas City Nursing home knew time wasn’t on their side.

“Two of our residents had symptoms and that’s when we tested everybody,” said nursing home Executive Director Jan Piveral.

56 residents and 33 staff members were COVID-19 positive.

“Our Goal was to make sure we could shelter them in place so we don’t spread it to other people,” Armstrong said. “Then also at the same time treat them so they would get better.”

Armstrong says he knew residents who ended up in the hospital had a higher mortality rate.

“Our goal was to keep them here and treat them with the medications we had available,” he said.

When Armstrong began administering Hydroxychloroquine to it was controversial but appeared promising.

“If we didn’t make the decision quickly then we could potentially lose 15 to 20% of the residents which was not an option,” said the Doctor.

Armstrong’s approach was to begin administering Hydroxychloroquine a Zpac and Zinc just as soon as a resident first started showing symptoms.

The patients were being monitored daily.

“We did EKGs on each of these patients to make sure they didn’t have the cardiac side effects that everyone talks about,” Armstrong said. “None of our patients did.”

Armstrong doesn’t call the Hydroxychloroquine a cure and is aware of all the recent reports that say the drug shouldn’t be used to treat COVID-19.

But he points out only one of the nursing homes COVID-19 patients has died.

“Everyone who got on treatment who started on treatment is actually doing really well,” he said.

nope, not possible... :roll:
THIS IS CRAZY. :shock:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fox-26- ... hloroquine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Report from 4 days ago - one death out of 80+ cases, from a situation that has been going on for almost a month. 40% of deaths in Texas are in nursing homes. Heck, the nursing home in my area had over a dozen deaths.
Fox News. Must be fake!
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Highway Star wrote:
madhatter wrote:
A nursing home in Texas has a hopeful story for those suffering with coronavirus.
The Resort at Texas nursing home had an outbreak of coronavirus that infected 56 residents and 33 staff members.

Dr. Robin Armstrong immediately administered hydroxychloroquine to the residents and staff members along with Zpac and Zinc.

Only one nursing home patient died since the doctor prescribed the hydroxychloroquine.
55 made it.
This drug is having amazing success treating the coronavirus.
But the liberal media would rather see people die than report the truth on this treatment.
Dr. Armstrong and others at the Resort at Texas City Nursing home knew time wasn’t on their side.

“Two of our residents had symptoms and that’s when we tested everybody,” said nursing home Executive Director Jan Piveral.

56 residents and 33 staff members were COVID-19 positive.

“Our Goal was to make sure we could shelter them in place so we don’t spread it to other people,” Armstrong said. “Then also at the same time treat them so they would get better.”

Armstrong says he knew residents who ended up in the hospital had a higher mortality rate.

“Our goal was to keep them here and treat them with the medications we had available,” he said.

When Armstrong began administering Hydroxychloroquine to it was controversial but appeared promising.

“If we didn’t make the decision quickly then we could potentially lose 15 to 20% of the residents which was not an option,” said the Doctor.

Armstrong’s approach was to begin administering Hydroxychloroquine a Zpac and Zinc just as soon as a resident first started showing symptoms.

The patients were being monitored daily.

“We did EKGs on each of these patients to make sure they didn’t have the cardiac side effects that everyone talks about,” Armstrong said. “None of our patients did.”

Armstrong doesn’t call the Hydroxychloroquine a cure and is aware of all the recent reports that say the drug shouldn’t be used to treat COVID-19.

But he points out only one of the nursing homes COVID-19 patients has died.

“Everyone who got on treatment who started on treatment is actually doing really well,” he said.

nope, not possible... :roll:
THIS IS CRAZY. :shock:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fox-26- ... hloroquine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Report from 4 days ago - one early death out of 80+ cases, from a situation that has been going on for almost a month. 40% of deaths in Texas are in nursing homes. Heck, the nursing home in my area had over a dozen deaths.
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Check out Oxford University Jenner Institute. Some positive news on the vaccine front.

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ain't no money in a 50 yr old generic drug...

'course it also looks like gilead is in a bind with public opinion...the public wants a remedy but the public also wants it for the price of hydroxychloroquine...evil drug companies are not allowed to make a profit... it's mean spirited...
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