Killington Zoning Bylaw Amendment

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Killington Zoning Bylaw Amendment

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The Killington Selectboard recently passed new zoning amendments that will impact short term rental properties in the town and is expected to hire an expensive compliance firm that only targets self-managed rentals.

If you are local and think this is a matter that should be voted on, you can request a vote below

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COMPLETELY inaccurate comment . Youre a solution...that currently hasnt a problem.
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Can you elaborate what's inaccurate or not a problem?
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second home owners keep out?
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Faster is cooler. bring back the dis
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Has NOT been adopted...or even voted in as yet...As for the West Coast asshat firm...that thinks theyre gonna grab 150k a year for reading ads to find illicit rentals?..Hell....even K Town isnt that fukin ...benelovent with their checkbook.
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It was adopted may 5th.

Bylaw as written and requiring an annual permit process is impotent without the compliance firm promising to earn more than their fees.

Not opposed to a one time registration and sensible rules but this is not a good path.
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K Town has a history of pissing money away like sailors on shore leave....FAR too many instances to even begin to list
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The town could require registration and self certification that you are following the rules without all this nonsense. Host Compliance also collects more data than is required to enforce the bylaw as written, but only on those who rent through a number of websites includes Airbnb and VRBO. Seems pretty narrowly selective and questionable to me.

From the Host Compliance web site:
"In fact, our clients generally make 5-20 times as much money as they pay us. We call that the Host Compliance win-win formula and we stand behind it with an unconditional 6-month money-back guarantee!"

Fast forward to 9:35 in below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

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skidogg wrote:second home owners keep out?
Ya - this debacle and keep out for the covid are not going to help VT long term at all.

Wyoming is looking better every day........
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If you think the new registration fee & process is a problem then YOU are the problem. If opposed it reflects a total disregard for compliance with long established rule that are in place for good reason. And if your margins are that thin that you cant afford then maybe you are in the wrong business.
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The town has noise, parking and zoning bylaws that they chose not enforce on this owner until 2018, despite knowing about it since at least 2012. He was renting his property since 2005 and the 2 per bedroom rule was added to town bylaws in 2006. I don’t think he should be renting to that many people and support the town and rules. The former zoning admin said in 2018 that this wasn’t a huge issue in town.

We don’t need more annual taxes, fees and regulation. They can require a one time registration and self certification that you know and are following the rules to enforce. But instead would rather hire a firm to mail people citations and fines in the mail, while collecting more data than is needed to enforce the rules and unequally across all short term rental owners. Not to mention conflicts of interest.

You think this is really about health and safety ?
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the sheer ineptitude of KTown govt is staggering...they spend like money is coming off the trees...with ZERO clue as to HOW and WHEN itll be paid back. Debt upon debt. This west coast monitoring firm...first charged a Calif resort town something in the order of $5500 for the year of monitoring. K is being offered this scam firms "services"...to the tune of something like $120,000...$150,000 a YEAR. Great deal...so K can recoup maybe 5 grand a year in fines a year. What a deal. Made all the more pitiful..in that secondary homeowners...such as muself...have ZERO say and input of these most pressing matters. had KTown simply been WAY more aggressive with this Connolly / Estabrook Rd asshole...and rescinded his Cert of Occupancy...this would no longer be a noteworthy and lengthy concern.
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The Estabrook property is for sale

Petition was accepted, and the zoning amendment with its questionable annual financing requirement will be on Nov ballot.

I'm all for passing this amendment if they make it a one-time zoning permit/registration & certification and drop the data snooping compliance firms.
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If this is really about safety of water systems, this ruling should apply to all houses not just Short Term Rentals. Every house should have to be inspected so enforcement is consistent....2 people per room. Remove all the bunk beds and multiple beds per room. That should wake everyone up. There are 3000 homes at K with ~800 people that are residents and can vote on the topic. ~950 are short term rentals and ~400 long term rentals. So almost half of the housing at K is rented out for some part of the season and most cant vote on this topic.
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2 people per bedroom is just an engineer's assumption so that daily flow can be calculated to size the field when the house is built. Is there any thought given by the Town as to how the flow of 4 people per room for 2 days a week (8 people-days) is somehow more damaging than 2 people in the room for 7 days (14 people-days)? Is that peak flow over only 2 days too large? That's the better question to ask, and the better design criteria to use for short term rental housing. My guess is modern systems designed with excess capacity can usually handle that kind of intermittent peak flow. I think the town needs to hear from several qualified civil engineers and adopt peak residency vs permanent residency criteria. Unless this isn't really about wastewater capacity.
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