expansion

[newpylong1]

They seem to have given up on expanding terrain until after FIS snow control. At least that's what the report implies. Coincidentally, Vail just pushed back all of the opening dates scheduled for this weekend.

They are waiting on the wet bulb to drop some more and push the curve towards the water side. Then more aggressive expansion will begin. Until then high elevation and SS only. Nearly a 100 air hogs on SS alone and more in North Ridge will use up an extraordinary amount of air in crap temps.

[snoloco]

I'd agree with you, and say that's the right strategy, but the report does not indicate that there is any snowmaking at all away from Superstar, not even on Upper East Fall which they desperately need to open.

[newpylong1]

The report mentioned UEF yesterday and again does today. They are making snow there. That trail takes a lot of snow due to running water. They toil at it every mild fall for a week.

[Mister Moose]

The report mentioned UEF yesterday and again does today. They are making snow there. That trail takes a lot of snow due to running water. They toil at it every mild fall for a week.

So why bother? Why not open lower Ridge run next? Plus it gets you further down the road to the race to the bottom.

[snoloco]

The report mentioned UEF yesterday and again does today. They are making snow there. That trail takes a lot of snow due to running water. They toil at it every mild fall for a week.

It only mentioned that they made snow there on Saturday night. They had 4 guns where it merges into Rime all day Sunday, but not on the rest of the trail. I have no idea if they are still on.

[newpylong1]

Take another look.

[newpylong1]

The report mentioned UEF yesterday and again does today. They are making snow there. That trail takes a lot of snow due to running water. They toil at it every mild fall for a week.

So why bother? Why not open lower Ridge run next? Plus it gets you further down the road to the race to the bottom.

Likely because it makes little sense to deliberately cut across Rime on one of only two open trails. Recipe for disaster. Better to have 2 full contiguous routes. It'll open soon enough. The extra 200 feet that Ridge would be towards Snowdon isn't overly advantageous.

[jimmywilson69]

or why not put in a culvert or a stone underdrain/mattress so the water can travel across the slope subsurface until they get a base built. I bet that would save them some snowmaking effort.

[snoloco]

Take another look.

Still don't see any mention of snowmaking in North Ridge beyond Saturday night, just that UEF is the next expansion target.

[newpylong1]

"Killington snowmakers recently completed a resurfacing of Rime and Reason and started the base on Upper East Fall, their next expansion target."

That seems pretty cut and dry that therr is active snowmaking.

[RENO]

Again this season as last, word on the street is that there will be more snowmaking this season!

[snoloco]

"Killington snowmakers recently completed a resurfacing of Rime and Reason and started the base on Upper East Fall, their next expansion target."

That seems pretty cut and dry that therr is active snowmaking.

Now that the fog has cleared somewhat and it's more visible on the webcam, there doesn't appear to be any active snowmaking on Upper East Fall.

[machski]

Given what we have seen (or more precisely haven't seen) temperature wise this year, I'm not shocked K is swinging full attention this week and window to SS and FIS build. They are getting down to the wire and has to be 100% the focus to pull it off. With the tour not even crossing the pond last season, if they can not miss this they will do whatever it takes I think.

And with other NE resorts starting to officially push back their previously stated openings, what K is offering now is not too shabby all things considered.

[Southside_Bobby]

Given what we have seen (or more precisely haven't seen) temperature wise this year, I'm not shocked K is swinging full attention this week and window to SS and FIS build. They are getting down to the wire and has to be 100% the focus to pull it off. With the tour not even crossing the pond last season, if they can not miss this they will do whatever it takes I think.

And now we have landed on the annual discussion. Can K walk and chew gum at the same time?

Do they or don't they have enough resources to expand public terrain, and put as much snow on Superstar as possible, simultaneously?

The answer is they do. If the weather is completely uncooperative, it won't matter how much manpower or capacity they have. If it does cooperate enough, they have enough of both to do both. Period.

If we don't have TTB by Thanksgiving this year with the WC here, we wouldn't have had it without the WC here.

My question remains. Do they need to have Skyelark covered in order to have the event?

[skiadikt]

"Killington snowmakers recently completed a resurfacing of Rime and Reason and started the base on Upper East Fall, their next expansion target."

That seems pretty cut and dry that therr is active snowmaking.

Now that the fog has cleared somewhat and it's more visible on the webcam, there doesn't appear to be any active snowmaking on Upper East Fall.

maybe we see some with the colder temps tonite but everything shuts down tomorrow through thurs evening with the warmer temps. i know a couple of snowmaking vets who went out west this winter so they could be short staffed and it's all hands on deck in terms of bodies for WC. fwiw, even if they open LEF, it'll probably be closed at times for race training.