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MrsG wrote: Dec 1st, '23, 20:06 PSA: “ December 10-15 we welcome 600 PSIA Pro Jam members to Killington. They will have breakfast and lunch on mountain but they are on their own for dinner with the exception of Thursday, Dec 14 when they have a reception with hors d’oeuvres.”
it's usually a sh*t show when they're here. also there's race week coming up. maybe this upcoming week. they usually use upper dipper, so that'll be closed for a week.
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snoloco wrote: Dec 1st, '23, 15:07 They had since April to fix the Canyon Quad. How is that not done yet? Will it ever run this season?
Not to mention they had all summer to get the Snowdon bubble RFID gate set up. Late yesterday, there were wiring it together and then left at the closing bell. Looked like they were replacing all of the "internal" wiring from a junction box on the right side to all of the separate gates. Not that there was any "major feed wire" going into the other side of the junction box. Not sure how long this is gonna be OOC.
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Captain Hafski wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 09:23
snoloco wrote: Dec 1st, '23, 15:07 They had since April to fix the Canyon Quad. How is that not done yet? Will it ever run this season?
Not to mention they had all summer to get the Snowdon bubble RFID gate set up. Late yesterday, there were wiring it together and then left at the closing bell. Looked like they were replacing all of the "internal" wiring from a junction box on the right side to all of the separate gates. Not that there was any "major feed wire" going into the other side of the junction box. Not sure how long this is gonna be OOC.
will have to ask t-bone on thursday about the canyon. think it's waiting on load testing. he told me over the summer that 6 lifts (in addition to 2 base lodges) were damaged because of the storms which probably caused delays in many projects. i'd cut less slack on the bubble rfid.
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Bubble RFID is an unforced error. They are obviously convinced it will solve enough problems that it is worth the early season aggravation. It may require a skill set that’s not in house. I’ll postpone judgement.
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rogman wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 12:42 Bubble RFID is an unforced error. They are obviously convinced it will solve enough problems that it is worth the early season aggravation. It may require a skill set that’s not in house. I’ll postpone judgement.
I do question the location of the gate.
The line/mob waiting at the scanner will extend across the trail to where caper dumps you out.

Thats always been a ‘stand around’ location, but now
Anyone trying to get past this and go to ramshead is F’ed
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They moved the gate because they had constant issues with passes not scanning, which would cause most chairs to go up with empty seats. It's the same thing they did at Ramshead last year.
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snoloco wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 15:46 They moved the gate because they had constant issues with passes not scanning, which would cause most chairs to go up with empty seats. It's the same thing they did at Ramshead last year.
worked well at ramshead. the idea is right but maybe the location is wrong. we'll see how this works in practice because it's where people often congregate before entering the corral.
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As one who uses the singles line a lot. I am not a fan of this location.
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180 wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 16:21 As one who uses the singles line a lot. I am not a fan of this location.
Agree . . . Bad location . . You used to be able to ski right in to the line. Now you have to go through the gate then cut hard left . .tough move when its crowded. Will be a cluster on busy days . .
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And most chairs going up half full is better?
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This is clearly a change they felt would be beneficial to the patrons. There’s no financial incentive. They are actually pretty good at these type of choices. Seriously, let it play out, then ream them because it sucks or be conspicuously silent because it worked. Win-win.
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rogman wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 20:53 This is clearly a change they felt would be beneficial to the patrons. There’s no financial incentive. They are actually pretty good at these type of choices. Seriously, let it play out, then ream them because it sucks or be conspicuously silent because it worked. Win-win.
way to early kill them. do the gates even work yet? give it a chance.
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snoloco wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 15:46 They moved the gate because they had constant issues with passes not scanning, which would cause most chairs to go up with empty seats. It's the same thing they did at Ramshead last year.
Why not fix the scanners so the passes do scan?
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Big Bob wrote: Dec 3rd, '23, 05:47
snoloco wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 15:46 They moved the gate because they had constant issues with passes not scanning, which would cause most chairs to go up with empty seats. It's the same thing they did at Ramshead last year.
Why not fix the scanners so the passes do scan?
The passes embed a few coils of wire to capture RF energy to power them and give their response. They have very short range and the field has to pass through that coil. Heavy winter clothing and/or the orientation of the pass can affect performance. Then there is the processing time to do the pass lookup. No system of that complexity is foolproof.
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rogman wrote: Dec 3rd, '23, 06:48
Big Bob wrote: Dec 3rd, '23, 05:47
snoloco wrote: Dec 2nd, '23, 15:46 They moved the gate because they had constant issues with passes not scanning, which would cause most chairs to go up with empty seats. It's the same thing they did at Ramshead last year.
Why not fix the scanners so the passes do scan?
The passes embed a few coils of wire to capture RF energy to power them and give their response. They have very short range and the field has to pass through that coil. Heavy winter clothing and/or the orientation of the pass can affect performance. Then there is the processing time to do the pass lookup. No system of that complexity is foolproof.
and that's why they have the lifties there w the batons to scan through folks w problems. also you're relying on folks to be smart enough to put their pass in a place w maximum readability. think you're not supposed to put the pass in a wallet w credit cards. lots of variables.

once they get this debugged, this should be an improvement in terms of cutting back on not fully loaded chairs.
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