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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 14:51
daytripper wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 14:48 Ski instructors need to teach their groups to get out of the way once they get off the lift, it's infuriating when a whole group including the instructor is standing there chatting in the unload area. Instructors should be fired for doing this.
Some of those ski instructors really lack judgment. Came upon one guy leading a little kid down High Road on a busy weekend day, and he tells the kid to make slow S turns and take up the whole trail. Just asking for someone to come over that blind lip and cause an accident, not to mention blocking a primary connector trail between Superstar and Needles.
Maybe the kid was intimidated by the pitch and the instructor was merely trying to get him down? Maybe coming fast over a blind lip on a busy day is not very bright? I hope the resulting traffic jam on the primary connector trail didn't ruin your day, putz.
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Skid Mark wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 22:07
easyrider16 wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 14:51 Some of those ski instructors really lack judgment. Came upon one guy leading a little kid down High Road on a busy weekend day, and he tells the kid to make slow S turns and take up the whole trail. Just asking for someone to come over that blind lip and cause an accident, not to mention blocking a primary connector trail between Superstar and Needles.
Maybe the kid was intimidated by the pitch and the instructor was merely trying to get him down? Maybe coming fast over a blind lip on a busy day is not very bright? I hope the resulting traffic jam on the primary connector trail didn't ruin your day, putz.
It didn't, but it sure would have ruined that kid's day if someone came over the lip and clipped him. The point here is that a competent ski instructor would not have put the kid in an unsafe situation like that, not that I was inconvenienced.
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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 3rd, '25, 08:23
Skid Mark wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 22:07
easyrider16 wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 14:51 Some of those ski instructors really lack judgment. Came upon one guy leading a little kid down High Road on a busy weekend day, and he tells the kid to make slow S turns and take up the whole trail. Just asking for someone to come over that blind lip and cause an accident, not to mention blocking a primary connector trail between Superstar and Needles.
Maybe the kid was intimidated by the pitch and the instructor was merely trying to get him down? Maybe coming fast over a blind lip on a busy day is not very bright? I hope the resulting traffic jam on the primary connector trail didn't ruin your day, putz.
It didn't, but it sure would have ruined that kid's day if someone came over the lip and clipped him. The point here is that a competent ski instructor would not have put the kid in an unsafe situation like that, not that I was inconvenienced.
On the flip side, if newer skiers never try to advance to more challenging terrain, they will never advance their skills.
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This kinda goes back to what I was saying in the other thread. Killington is a tough place to learn to ski if you only ski weekends. The risk of getting clipped by a yahoo going way too fast for the conditions is much higher than at other resorts due to both terrain and crowds, and the ski instructors should be using their judgment to minimize this risk. Yet they often don't, putting both newer skiers and everyone who might be going that way at risk.
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Low Rider wrote: Jan 3rd, '25, 08:34
easyrider16 wrote: Jan 3rd, '25, 08:23
Skid Mark wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 22:07
easyrider16 wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 14:51 Some of those ski instructors really lack judgment. Came upon one guy leading a little kid down High Road on a busy weekend day, and he tells the kid to make slow S turns and take up the whole trail. Just asking for someone to come over that blind lip and cause an accident, not to mention blocking a primary connector trail between Superstar and Needles.
Maybe the kid was intimidated by the pitch and the instructor was merely trying to get him down? Maybe coming fast over a blind lip on a busy day is not very bright? I hope the resulting traffic jam on the primary connector trail didn't ruin your day, putz.
It didn't, but it sure would have ruined that kid's day if someone came over the lip and clipped him. The point here is that a competent ski instructor would not have put the kid in an unsafe situation like that, not that I was inconvenienced.
On the flip side, if newer skiers never try to advance to more challenging terrain, they will never advance their skills.
the amount of icy steep poconos mogul runs i heelside hero'd through made me the rider i am today.
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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 3rd, '25, 08:23
Skid Mark wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 22:07
easyrider16 wrote: Jan 2nd, '25, 14:51 Some of those ski instructors really lack judgment. Came upon one guy leading a little kid down High Road on a busy weekend day, and he tells the kid to make slow S turns and take up the whole trail. Just asking for someone to come over that blind lip and cause an accident, not to mention blocking a primary connector trail between Superstar and Needles.
Maybe the kid was intimidated by the pitch and the instructor was merely trying to get him down? Maybe coming fast over a blind lip on a busy day is not very bright? I hope the resulting traffic jam on the primary connector trail didn't ruin your day, putz.
It didn't, but it sure would have ruined that kid's day if someone came over the lip and clipped him. The point here is that a competent ski instructor would not have put the kid in an unsafe situation like that, not that I was inconvenienced.
cant have experienced coaches who know the mountain if the mountain doesnt want to pay them proper wages for their work, leading to high turnover and a new crop of inexperienced coaches every year who end up in situations where they over terrain their students. kinda like the ski patrol strike going on over at PCMR where inexperienced scabs are working, only coaches arent nearly as important to mountain operations as ski patrol is.
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KMS people. Coaches and students. A holes. Mouthy and entitled. I give don't give them a second thought. I pay money to ski here. I have Karma on my side. Not worth my time to deal with them. Karma will square them away. Maybe not tomorrow. But eventually.
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ANGUS wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 12:57 KMS people. Coaches and students. A holes. Mouthy and entitled. I give don't give them a second thought. I pay money to ski here. I have Karma on my side. Not worth my time to deal with them. Karma will square them away. Maybe not tomorrow. But eventually.
I believe KMS/KSC peeps have been better the last few years. Not perfect, but better. The big problem is 18 to 30 males straight lining greens and easy blues, and hitting kickers off the side without looking downhill. Regardless, the new owners are big KMS/KSC supporters, so good luck with your Karma plan.
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rogman wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 15:31
ANGUS wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 12:57 KMS people. Coaches and students. A holes. Mouthy and entitled. I give don't give them a second thought. I pay money to ski here. I have Karma on my side. Not worth my time to deal with them. Karma will square them away. Maybe not tomorrow. But eventually.
I believe KMS/KSC peeps have been better the last few years. Not perfect, but better. The big problem is 18 to 30 males straight lining greens and easy blues, and hitting kickers off the side without looking downhill. Regardless, the new owners are big KMS/KSC supporters, so good luck with your Karma plan.
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People have accidents everyday. God bless.
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rogman wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 15:31
ANGUS wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 12:57 KMS people. Coaches and students. A holes. Mouthy and entitled. I give don't give them a second thought. I pay money to ski here. I have Karma on my side. Not worth my time to deal with them. Karma will square them away. Maybe not tomorrow. But eventually.
I believe KMS/KSC peeps have been better the last few years. Not perfect, but better. The big problem is 18 to 30 males straight lining greens and easy blues, and hitting kickers off the side without looking downhill. Regardless, the new owners are big KMS/KSC supporters, so good luck with your Karma plan.
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rogman wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 15:31
ANGUS wrote: Jan 10th, '25, 12:57 KMS people. Coaches and students. A holes. Mouthy and entitled. I give don't give them a second thought. I pay money to ski here. I have Karma on my side. Not worth my time to deal with them. Karma will square them away. Maybe not tomorrow. But eventually.
I believe KMS/KSC peeps have been better the last few years. Not perfect, but better. The big problem is 18 to 30 males straight lining greens and easy blues, and hitting kickers off the side without looking downhill. Regardless, the new owners are big KMS/KSC supporters, so good luck with your Karma plan.
Agree - the low-level intermediate park rats who think they are highly advanced (which is most of them) are a much bigger issue than the KMS group - the park rats just don't all wear the same jacket.

It won't happen of course, but I'd love to see a much-reduced emphasis and reduction in the number of parks on the mountain.
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Low Rider wrote: Jan 11th, '25, 08:06 I'd love to see a much-reduced emphasis and reduction in the number of parks on the mountain.
Agree +1000 . . what a waste of good trails
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ski wrote: Jan 11th, '25, 10:01
Low Rider wrote: Jan 11th, '25, 08:06 I'd love to see a much-reduced emphasis and reduction in the number of parks on the mountain.
Agree +1000 . . what a waste of good trails
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Bubba wrote: Jan 11th, '25, 10:46
ski wrote: Jan 11th, '25, 10:01
Low Rider wrote: Jan 11th, '25, 08:06 I'd love to see a much-reduced emphasis and reduction in the number of parks on the mountain.
Agree +1000 . . what a waste of good trails
Park rats are people (i.e. customers) too.
Sure . . whatever . . .. but instead of spreading them all over the mountain, contain the rats in their own sterile playpen . .
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