Village Article From Vermont Business Magazine

Post by **Bubba** » Apr 21st, '25, 12:33

Killington’s $3 billion expansion aims for world-class appeal and lasting economic impact

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2025/april/ ... g-economic

Stormchaser · Post by **Stormchaser** » Apr 21st, '25, 13:43

What a load...

Post by **Bubba** » Apr 21st, '25, 14:24

Stormchaser wrote: ↑Apr 21st, '25, 13:43 What a load...

There are a lot of projected benefits claimed in that article; lots of which will be hard to deliver.

RENO · Post by **RENO** » Apr 21st, '25, 15:56

The Crystal is Hideous. Don't know how in the hell they came up with that design or who they talked to about it?
I like the statement about property for sale for Phase 1: 'prices catering to a wide range of buyers' ?
Yeah, ok. I don't know 1 person that will be able to afford anything in that village. Catering to the rich and shameless as usual.

hillbangin · Post by **hillbangin** » Apr 21st, '25, 20:07

RENO wrote: ↑Apr 21st, '25, 15:56 The Crystal is Hideous. Don't know how if the hell they came up with that design or who they talked to about it?
I like the statement about property for sale for Phase 1: 'prices catering to a wide range of buyers' ?
Yeah, ok. I don't know 1 person that will be able to afford anything in that village. Catering to the rich and shameless as usual.

$2.2+ for a 3 bdrm ( 1 being a lockout Studio ) - taxes and fees on top of that.

All for 30 good days of skiing a year.................

Makes the OL Duplexes a bargain..................

Post by **spanky** » Apr 21st, '25, 20:52

The largest ski resort in the eastern United States — with annual revenues estimated at over $3 million and traditional home to the Stifel Killington World Cup for women’s downhill racing — Killington Mountain Resort is set to undergo a metamorphic redevelopment that aims to solidify its reputation as a world-class, four-season destination.

A $3 billion investment in a business that generates $3 million in revenue per year?!?!

Ouch!

Although, I hope their revenue is a bit north of $3M.

Edit: how does the saying go about making a little money in the ski industry???

Post by **Bubba** » Apr 21st, '25, 21:18

spanky wrote: ↑Apr 21st, '25, 20:52
The largest ski resort in the eastern United States — with annual revenues estimated at over $3 million and traditional home to the Stifel Killington World Cup for women’s downhill racing — Killington Mountain Resort is set to undergo a metamorphic redevelopment that aims to solidify its reputation as a world-class, four-season destination.
A $3 billion investment in a business that generates $3 million in revenue per year?!?!

Ouch!

Although, I hope their revenue is a bit north of $3M.

Edit: how does the saying go about making a little money in the ski industry???

I figured that was a typo or the writer had no idea what he was writing.

volklopposition · Post by **volklopposition** » Apr 22nd, '25, 01:53

My advice would be to look less like Vail Resorts on the mountain, more like Vail Resorts in the base area. That is what this seems to be aiming for.

rogman · Post by **rogman** » Apr 22nd, '25, 06:16

“3 million revenue” isn’t just a typo, for example forgetting a zero. That information isn’t public and no way it is disclosed to some random reporter. Fact checking clearly went way off the rails on that one.

Change is the life blood of a recreation experience. A place like Killington has to continually reinvent itself. The Kzone groupthink is fundamentally conservative. It hates change, and resists “improvements” like the bubble and KBL, at the least until they become part of the new normal. The mountain has taken a new tack with the new SS6, selling it to the public as really no change at all. Even the uphill capacity won’t change, although they seem to be playing a shell game with the numbers. I suspect they know it will be more transformative than they are letting on, but the positives will far outweigh the negatives as they were with the bubble and KBL.

Crippity · Post by **Crippity** » Apr 22nd, '25, 06:31

Dumb question, when this is all built is there a tunnel under village to get to k1?

Skid Mark · Post by **Skid Mark** » Apr 22nd, '25, 08:23

Yes, a tunnel will go under the snow bridge that will connect Ramshead with Snowshed.

The LiveKillingon.com site has been updated but they still have the horrendous village drawings that makes the village look like a crappy Star Wars set.

RENO · Post by **RENO** » Apr 22nd, '25, 08:31

rogman wrote: ↑Apr 22nd, '25, 06:16 “3 million revenue” isn’t just a typo, for example forgetting a zero. That information isn’t public and no way it is disclosed to some random reporter. Fact checking clearly went way off the rails on that one.

Change is the life blood of a recreation experience. A place like Killington has to continually reinvent itself. The Kzone groupthink is fundamentally conservative. It hates change, and resists “improvements” like the bubble and KBL, at the least until they become part of the new normal. The mountain has taken a new tack with the new SS6, selling it to the public as really no change at all. Even the uphill capacity won’t change, although they seem to be playing a shell game with the numbers. I suspect they know it will be more transformative than they are letting on, but the positives will far outweigh the negatives as they were with the bubble and KBL.

I'm fine with most of the changes. Good with the new KBL, new lifts, good with replacing Snowshed and Rams Head lodges, definitely good with snowmaking upgrades!, etc... but the Crystal is hideous! LOL! They can come up with a better more Vermontish design. If they did something like Sugarbush did with their base village with size and design I would be good with that. The design fits Vermont. A good amount of the K village design as I see the sketches is fugly! Costs for property are a given. I understand they are not gonna develop a base village and sell condos for $150,000 and homes for $300,000. LOL! I knew most normal people would be priced out. Everything in town now is way overpriced also after the last several years. Fortunately I have a property within walking distance to Phase 1. I can always sell for far more than I paid many years ago. Maybe buy a house outside of K town. Somewhere more affordable. We'll see what happens the next couple years...

Post by **Bubba** » Apr 22nd, '25, 09:23

rogman wrote: ↑Apr 22nd, '25, 06:16 “3 million revenue” isn’t just a typo, for example forgetting a zero. That information isn’t public and no way it is disclosed to some random reporter. Fact checking clearly went way off the rails on that one.

Change is the life blood of a recreation experience. A place like Killington has to continually reinvent itself. The Kzone groupthink is fundamentally conservative. It hates change, and resists “improvements” like the bubble and KBL, at the least until they become part of the new normal. The mountain has taken a new tack with the new SS6, selling it to the public as really no change at all. Even the uphill capacity won’t change, although they seem to be playing a shell game with the numbers. I suspect they know it will be more transformative than they are letting on, but the positives will far outweigh the negatives as they were with the bubble and KBL.

You must be referring to a different KZone. Oh, wait, you mean the SSQC.

I don’t think most people had a problem with the bubble or KBL. Although the look of K-1 still reminds many of an airport terminal, it functions reasonably well and serves the purpose year round. The village, however, will totally transform the resort and, yes, that transformation is worrisome to many if not most Killington regulars. Time will tell who’s right.

rogman · Post by **rogman** » Apr 22nd, '25, 09:36

You’re missing my point. These changes were objected to initially, but once they were built and became the new normal Kzone was “fine” with them, a 1984-esque after the fact revision of history. “Of course I always liked the new bubble and KBL”

As for the village, the publicly available drawings are hideous and (I suspect) deliberately so. It simplifies the approval of whatever finally comes out. Of course, the reaction will be, “better, but it still sucks”. Once built, “I always thought it would be nice”.

Stormchaser · Post by **Stormchaser** » Apr 22nd, '25, 09:58

rogman wrote: ↑Apr 22nd, '25, 09:36 You’re missing my point. These changes were objected to initially, but once they were built and became the new normal Kzone was “fine” with them, a 1984-esque after the fact revision of history. “Of course I always liked the new bubble and KBL”

As for the village, the publicly available drawings are hideous and (I suspect) deliberately so. It simplifies the approval of whatever finally comes out. Of course, the reaction will be, “better, but it still sucks”. Once built, “I always thought it would be nice”.

Pretty sure no one elected you speaker of the kzone house. The peak lodge doesn't effectively use its space to serve the crowds it sees - eaten there twice since construction, used the bathroom once. And it still gives off that foul smell. Bravo! K1 is the new Rutland Mall, except the escalator is always broken and the food costs more - been inside once, no reason to return. And the long lines the detachable 6 at Snowdon has caused, combined with its mechanical issues, inefficient seat management, and routine delays, when compared to the reliable, runs-in-every-weather-event, fixy that it replaced, make that lift replacement garner a grade of C-. But hey, the village is gonna be GRRRR-EAT!

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