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Re: Juggernaut

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The first time I came to Killington in 2001 I had only ever been to resorts in PA. Nowhere remotely close to the size of K. I read about a trail 10 miles long, and HAD to do it. Juggernaut was one of the first trails I did on my first day. By myself, on a snowboard. I didn't know what I was getting myself into.
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Re: Juggernaut

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I measured the whole, peak-to-skyebase Juggernaut on Google Earth and only got 7.38 miles? Has anybody actually measured the trail on skis?
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Re: Juggernaut

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Stormchaser wrote:
Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:
Barnibus wrote:
hillbangin wrote:Are there any glade shots that are worth the effort off the upper Jug?

I've heard rumors. It's the only 'in bound' area I've never figured out.

Don't expect anyone to tell secrets here - just a question in general.

Noticed some tracks in there Saturday.

Also heard that there was some Irene damage and that's why it is closed - or they just don't want to patrol it at the end of the day.
Defenitely some good glade shots back there, but also some miserable glade shots too if you hit it wrong, not a place to go exploring thats for sure, you could encounter nicely pitched powder fields or be stuck in a stream bed or get treed in super tight pines, pm me for a tour......its deep out there
Not really any secrets... as Barnibus said there is skiing between trails out there (Juggernaut/ Solitude/ Sassafras). Some of it is awesome and some of it nightmarish. If you are either brave or stupid you can roll the dice. A lucky roll gets you amazing untracked powder steep and open. A bad roll gets you into some of the thickest crap outside of the peak glades. Unfun. You cannot get lost if you choose woods bounded by trails but you can have an awful time slogging through flat crowded piney woods. No room to turn at all.

If you are truly dull and choose to drop into woods not bounded by trails you can get lost and die.

So Juggernaut is definitely NOT a useless trail for some of us.
I've spent 45 minutes clawing my way through evergreens so thick, only Sir Mix-A-Lot would like 'em. I'd argue it's got the thickest forest on the mountain due to the more southerly exposure and slightly lower elevation. There are a couple shots worth finding, but there isn't a whole lot of elevation change in there... Without the SRT, it's tough to justify the lap required for a few hundred feet of tree vert.

Yes this is true. But when I refer to the peak glades being thicker I mean the trees on either side of Upper Catwalk. You cannot even walk through them, never mind pick a decent line.

If you hated Juggernaut to Solitude, and it would be easy to find evil in there I could still recommend Solitude to Sassafras. More vertical and the prizes are grander.
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Re: Juggernaut

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Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:
Stormchaser wrote:
Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:
Barnibus wrote:
hillbangin wrote:Are there any glade shots that are worth the effort off the upper Jug?

I've heard rumors. It's the only 'in bound' area I've never figured out.

Don't expect anyone to tell secrets here - just a question in general.

Noticed some tracks in there Saturday.

Also heard that there was some Irene damage and that's why it is closed - or they just don't want to patrol it at the end of the day.
Defenitely some good glade shots back there, but also some miserable glade shots too if you hit it wrong, not a place to go exploring thats for sure, you could encounter nicely pitched powder fields or be stuck in a stream bed or get treed in super tight pines, pm me for a tour......its deep out there
Not really any secrets... as Barnibus said there is skiing between trails out there (Juggernaut/ Solitude/ Sassafras). Some of it is awesome and some of it nightmarish. If you are either brave or stupid you can roll the dice. A lucky roll gets you amazing untracked powder steep and open. A bad roll gets you into some of the thickest crap outside of the peak glades. Unfun. You cannot get lost if you choose woods bounded by trails but you can have an awful time slogging through flat crowded piney woods. No room to turn at all.

If you are truly dull and choose to drop into woods not bounded by trails you can get lost and die.

So Juggernaut is definitely NOT a useless trail for some of us.
I've spent 45 minutes clawing my way through evergreens so thick, only Sir Mix-A-Lot would like 'em. I'd argue it's got the thickest forest on the mountain due to the more southerly exposure and slightly lower elevation. There are a couple shots worth finding, but there isn't a whole lot of elevation change in there... Without the SRT, it's tough to justify the lap required for a few hundred feet of tree vert.

Yes this is true. But when I refer to the peak glades being thicker I mean the trees on either side of Upper Catwalk. You cannot even walk through them, never mind pick a decent line.

If you hated Juggernaut to Solitude, and it would be easy to find evil in there I could still recommend Solitude to Sassafras. More vertical and the prizes are grander.

The trees on SR are larger than the peak trees. Crashing through peak trees is skiing on and through green evergreen branches. Crashing through SR trees, you are mostly under the canopy skiing through the mass of dead limbs and branches with more of the green stuff at chest level or above. Better vis on SR as you can see through the dead branches a bit, but you ain't climbing up and over any branches on SR. Break em off and crash through or go back the way you came.
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Re: Juggernaut

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I've had some very nice runs by running Juggernaut or Solitude past Sassafras and a quick climb to the top and plenty of fresh powder runs there well after everything else has been played out (Where on the map is printed 'Bear Mountain'). It was easier to get back to the top in the past.
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Re: Juggernaut

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I like the trail to be honest. It's a nice cruiser when it's not a pow day.

It must take them forever to groom the upper half.
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Ragged#1 wrote:I like the trail to be honest. It's a nice cruiser when it's not a pow day.

It must take them forever to groom the upper half.
Cruiser? I would call it more of a stroll. I will admit to hitting it once a year though, when I want to relax.
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Ragged#1 wrote:I like the trail to be honest. It's a nice cruiser when it's not a pow day.

It must take them forever to groom the upper half.
You dont normally have to skate much on a nice cruiser. Even if it was an ice rink a lot of skating would be required on Juggernaut.
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Re: Juggernaut

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From 0:29 to 1:06 are trees off Juggernaut.

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Yo Stash, it looks like an old super 8 video. You got a real bouncing on your head?
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Re: Juggernaut

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On powder days I try to send susceptible skiers and boarders down "The Jug" and by that I do not mean "Jug Handle" I mean Juggernaut so I won't have to see them for awhile. Is it just me?
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Re: Juggernaut

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Sorry Doc, old hand held Kodak still camera with video cpability (limited).
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Re: Juggernaut

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GSKI wrote:On powder days I try to send susceptible skiers and boarders down "The Jug" and by that I do not mean "Jug Handle" I mean Juggernaut so I won't have to see them for awhile. Is it just me?
I like the Jug, but I certainly wouldn't send anyone there without telling them honestly what it was.
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Re: Juggernaut

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Marc Shepherd wrote:
GSKI wrote:On powder days I try to send susceptible skiers and boarders down "The Jug" and by that I do not mean "Jug Handle" I mean Juggernaut so I won't have to see them for awhile. Is it just me?
I like the Jug, but I certainly wouldn't send anyone there without telling them honestly what it was.
I always warn people to stay away from it especially when there is powder.
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Re: Juggernaut

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tyrolean_skier wrote:
Marc Shepherd wrote:
GSKI wrote:On powder days I try to send susceptible skiers and boarders down "The Jug" and by that I do not mean "Jug Handle" I mean Juggernaut so I won't have to see them for awhile. Is it just me?
I like the Jug, but I certainly wouldn't send anyone there without telling them honestly what it was.
I always warn people to stay away from it especially when there is powder.
I recently warned a couple of boarders not to hit that trail. Yes GSKI, it is just you.
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