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Re: Someday Bigger?

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newpylong1 wrote: Aug 17th, '22, 14:34 The Upper Header snowmaking explanation makes no sense It was done for 20 years up until recently.
This all started with Woodward's arrival as well as the Children's Ski School Director who came on at the same time. He is no longer at K, but he did have a big say on the snow plan for Ramshead. It was and, as of last year, still is the plan to bulid out Easy Street as a progression zone . . . Poor Upper Header is now the red-headed step child of Killington . . Sure was fun shredding reserve pow on it early season . .
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Re: Someday Bigger?

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There is no better step up from Snowshed on the mountain for a novice skier than Header IMHO. Yes it fairly wide, but it so smooth that you could putt on it. Requires very little snow as we've seen au naturel.
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If K installed one of these Dopp D-lines on Rams (not gonna happen as they are a Poma hill), but the D-line automatically removes all chairs at the end of the day and stores them. Semi automated snowmaking can fire up quickly and make 12-14 hours worth of snow before re-roping the chairs as you shut down snowmaking. IT CAN BE DONE!!!!
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Re: Someday Bigger?

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I want you all to ski Caper on Christmas, then tell me that more guests on each chair will be better.
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Re: Someday Bigger?

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You do know you can adjust both the speed and the number of chairs (with a storage rail) to equate to any capacity you want right?
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Yeah but they won't. They'll build the fastest highest capacity lift possible.

You all said the same thing about s6 but the trails at Snowdon are significantly more crowded when the line is full.

A bubble is right for RH. It's going into wind most of time, with not quite hardened outdoor people as customers.

There will almost certainly be a bubble 6 installed on ramshead within the next 5 years. It will be fine, but an additional trail would really help
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Since Squeeze Play has been ruined anyway by the bike park, I'd like to see something done just beyond Timberline. They certainly have the banked acreage from the Juggernaut abandonment.
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Waste of money to replace that lift with something bigger/faster. Need to add more terrain first (Interconnect? :D ). If not, plenty of other things to spend the money on. Mainly, snowmaking! :like Only time I'm in that area is either to start the day with a lift ride up and move on to other areas, hit the woods (mostly weekdays) or to end the day to pickup the shuttle...
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A bubble is needed to protect the newbies from the relentless head wind.
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Looks like Sunday River just recycled the Big Sky Ramcharger presentation. Changed the blue to red. I think you can almost see Lone peak!
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LocalSanity wrote: Aug 18th, '22, 05:38 Yeah but they won't. They'll build the fastest highest capacity lift possible.

You all said the same thing about s6 but the trails at Snowdon are significantly more crowded when the line is full.

A bubble is right for RH. It's going into wind most of time, with not quite hardened outdoor people as customers.

There will almost certainly be a bubble 6 installed on ramshead within the next 5 years. It will be fine, but an additional trail would really help

Well, SR is actually doing the less chair thing. Jordan 8 will only carry 60 chairs vs the 113 of the original HSQ. So capacity does increase as its not quite 50% less chairs and the lift is 20% faster than the outgoing lift. But it is not a huge leap up in terms of riders dumed per hour over the old. They went with the D-Line bubble 8 due to its much higher resistance to wind vs any other chair. Dana Bullen has already said this chair will run in conditions many will wish they had not gone up to have to ski down in.
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machski wrote: Aug 20th, '22, 10:19
LocalSanity wrote: Aug 18th, '22, 05:38 Yeah but they won't. They'll build the fastest highest capacity lift possible.

You all said the same thing about s6 but the trails at Snowdon are significantly more crowded when the line is full.

A bubble is right for RH. It's going into wind most of time, with not quite hardened outdoor people as customers.

There will almost certainly be a bubble 6 installed on ramshead within the next 5 years. It will be fine, but an additional trail would really help

Well, SR is actually doing the less chair thing. Jordan 8 will only carry 60 chairs vs the 113 of the original HSQ. So capacity does increase as its not quite 50% less chairs and the lift is 20% faster than the outgoing lift. But it is not a huge leap up in terms of riders dumed per hour over the old. They went with the D-Line bubble 8 due to its much higher resistance to wind vs any other chair. Dana Bullen has already said this chair will run in conditions many will wish they had not gone up to have to ski down in.
Someone at Loon told me the cost of each chair was $36,000. About the same price as a small car!
2 hours and 10-minute drive to K
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Loon: 12/13, 12/20, 12/25, 1/8, 1/13, 1/15, 1/21, 1/27, 2/4, 2/12, 2/24, 3/13, 3/19, 4/11
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Re: Someday Bigger?

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Big Bob wrote: Aug 21st, '22, 06:47
machski wrote: Aug 20th, '22, 10:19
LocalSanity wrote: Aug 18th, '22, 05:38 Yeah but they won't. They'll build the fastest highest capacity lift possible.

You all said the same thing about s6 but the trails at Snowdon are significantly more crowded when the line is full.

A bubble is right for RH. It's going into wind most of time, with not quite hardened outdoor people as customers.

There will almost certainly be a bubble 6 installed on ramshead within the next 5 years. It will be fine, but an additional trail would really help

Well, SR is actually doing the less chair thing. Jordan 8 will only carry 60 chairs vs the 113 of the original HSQ. So capacity does increase as its not quite 50% less chairs and the lift is 20% faster than the outgoing lift. But it is not a huge leap up in terms of riders dumed per hour over the old. They went with the D-Line bubble 8 due to its much higher resistance to wind vs any other chair. Dana Bullen has already said this chair will run in conditions many will wish they had not gone up to have to ski down in.
Someone at Loon told me the cost of each chair was $36,000. About the same price as a small car!

And each chair weighs about the same as a Chevy Tahoe.
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Re: Someday Bigger?

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8x3600/3200 [passengers/hr] = 9 second chair interval
Doable, but likely a tad optimistic.
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rogman wrote: Aug 22nd, '22, 08:13 8x3600/3200 [passengers/hr] = 9 second chair interval
Doable, but likely a tad optimistic.
If it is the same duration as Loon it is very doable. You get on a loading carpet that deposits you on a waiting platform, then the chair scoups you up. The problem is getting 8 people to line up together before going through the gates.
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2024/2025 Ski Days: 35 days for the season
Killington: 11/14 (Day One), 12/23, 1/6, 1/10, 1/13,1/23, 2/5, 2/10, 2/19, 2/28, 3/11, 3/27, 4/20
Loon: 12/13, 12/20, 12/25, 1/8, 1/13, 1/15, 1/21, 1/27, 2/4, 2/12, 2/24, 3/13, 3/19, 4/11
Sunday River:3/4
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Cannon:12/05, 1/17, 1/24, 1/31, 2/21, 2/26, 3/14, 3/25
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