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Re: Poaching

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easyrider16 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 19:43 New business idea - poaching pass. An add on like the fast pass, only it allows unlimited access to "reserved" trails.
Killington Sales: Good morning, sir, how may I help you?
Customer: I’d like to buy a poaching pass.
Killington Sales: Excellent, what level pass would you like?
Customer: What level?
Sales: Well, for easy poaches, such as Upper Royal Flush, and a few low angle glades, we offer the bronze pass. It’s our “starter” poach. If your new to poaching, its an excellent value.
Customer: I was hoping for something a bit more…um, interesting?
Sales: Of course sir! For our more discriminating customers we offer the silver poach. It allows access to Lower Royal Flush and some of the steeper glades, all at a modest price point. I hear the Kzoners love it (wink).
Customer: Sounds very nice, but I actually had my heart set on some black diamond poaches.
Sales: Oh forgive me sir, I should have realized you were a man of exceptional tastes. That would require our gold poaching pass. Some of the best poaches on the mountain and includes full access to South Ridge, which is usually closed, except to the privileged such as yourself.
Customer: Excellent! Does it include (checks notes) the Devil’s Fiddle?
Sales: Oh dear, I’m so sorry, that requires the Platinum Poaching Pass, we don’t usually offer it, but today is your lucky day. We have a very limited number available. Shall I sign you up?
Customer: Of course. I always ski the black circles at my home mountain.
Sales: Wonderful, can I interest you in any of our optional insurance policies? It include a custom padded sled on standby. Most of customers like you find it an excellent value. They say it’s much better than the regular sleds they ride.
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Re: Poaching

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asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:48
Pedro wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:39
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:31
easyrider16 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 15:25
asher2789 wrote: Dec 9th, '23, 18:16 as ive been saying to much ridicule since ive been posting here, they're trying to remove the riff raff and make this a WEALTHY SKIER MOUNTAIN.
This is hilarious. Killington IS a wealthy skier mountain and has been for decades. And I'm not just talking generally that skiing is something wealthier people do. Killington is (and has been) one of the premier destination resorts and one of the most expensive in New England. There are plenty of ski areas that are way cheaper both in terms of lift access and surrounding real estate.

BTW, I don't think poaching has any correlation to wealth. In fact I bet the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to poach. I don't really see how stepping up enforcement is going to drive away less wealthy skiers.
things like this pop into mind: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/04/08 ... mmunities/

eventually, even the 'comfortable' will be pushed out by those who are wealthier. pretty much my point ive been making all along, for years now on this board, to ridicule. i feel it acutely as a member of the already looked down upon working class who makes skiing possible and can barely get by, it will be shadenfraude for me when the better off get hit with a little taste of class warfare as well.

i dont think poaching has any correlation with wealth - those with the skill (questionable!) and the taste for pow are gonna send it whether theyre the dishwasher on their day off or the CEO of a major company on vacation. i do think that killington having the reputation of being 'lax on safety' deters the wealthy from buying up the multimillion dollar proposed condos (after all, lots of places are willing to bend over backwards for their $$$$), hence the sudden vibe shift from laissez faire 'dont be a dick if you get caught and youll get a warning' to remote surveillance and pass suspensions delivered via email. this sudden change with no warning is i believe the first taste of the next phase of class warfare to make space for the even better off as the long awaited village gets developed.

also, its always been 'wealthy' yet up until covid always had space nearby for the working class to make a life here. if it werent for my extremely lucky rental situation that ive been at for years now, id long be gone.

Latest gossip from my neighbor in ski patrol suggests that Killington Resort is pushing the envelope in combating poaching. They’re deploying state-of-the-art imaging technology designed for low visibility conditions. We’re talking about a sophisticated network of multispectral cameras that can see through fog, snow, and even blizzards. These cameras use a combination of infrared, thermal, and UV imaging to identify unauthorized skiers in conditions where traditional cameras fail.

But that’s just the beginning. There's talk about an AI-driven analytical system that processes data from these cameras, using complex algorithms to distinguish between regular skiers, wildlife, and potential poachers. This system supposedly integrates meteorological data, adjusting its sensitivity based on weather conditions. Imagine drones equipped with miniaturized versions of this tech, patrolling the slopes autonomously, providing a bird's-eye view to further enhance surveillance.

Furthermore, they’re rumored to be experimenting with ground-penetrating radar to detect disturbances under the snow, like hidden tracks or equipment caches. And for communication, they're said to be implementing an encrypted network to coordinate rapid response teams, ensuring that any detected poacher is swiftly approached by patrol units equipped with the latest in navigation and safety gear.

Now, bear in mind, this all sounds like it’s straight out of a spy movie, and it’s hard to believe Killington is turning into a high-tech fortress against poaching. But, if even a fraction of this is true, those thinking of sneaking in during a snowstorm might find themselves caught in a net of technology so advanced, it makes James Bond's gadgets look outdated!
:roll:

go ahead and talk to patrol, theyll confirm the cameras and the cross checking of the cameras at the RFID gates. or better yet, talk trash, because youre not a local who actually lives here.
Um?…. A clue here: you might wanna rephrase this… being as you?….. aren’t a local!
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Re: Poaching

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Heywood jablowmee wrote: Dec 11th, '23, 13:10
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:48
Pedro wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:39
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:31
easyrider16 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 15:25

This is hilarious. Killington IS a wealthy skier mountain and has been for decades. And I'm not just talking generally that skiing is something wealthier people do. Killington is (and has been) one of the premier destination resorts and one of the most expensive in New England. There are plenty of ski areas that are way cheaper both in terms of lift access and surrounding real estate.

BTW, I don't think poaching has any correlation to wealth. In fact I bet the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to poach. I don't really see how stepping up enforcement is going to drive away less wealthy skiers.
things like this pop into mind: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/04/08 ... mmunities/

eventually, even the 'comfortable' will be pushed out by those who are wealthier. pretty much my point ive been making all along, for years now on this board, to ridicule. i feel it acutely as a member of the already looked down upon working class who makes skiing possible and can barely get by, it will be shadenfraude for me when the better off get hit with a little taste of class warfare as well.

i dont think poaching has any correlation with wealth - those with the skill (questionable!) and the taste for pow are gonna send it whether theyre the dishwasher on their day off or the CEO of a major company on vacation. i do think that killington having the reputation of being 'lax on safety' deters the wealthy from buying up the multimillion dollar proposed condos (after all, lots of places are willing to bend over backwards for their $$$$), hence the sudden vibe shift from laissez faire 'dont be a dick if you get caught and youll get a warning' to remote surveillance and pass suspensions delivered via email. this sudden change with no warning is i believe the first taste of the next phase of class warfare to make space for the even better off as the long awaited village gets developed.

also, its always been 'wealthy' yet up until covid always had space nearby for the working class to make a life here. if it werent for my extremely lucky rental situation that ive been at for years now, id long be gone.

Latest gossip from my neighbor in ski patrol suggests that Killington Resort is pushing the envelope in combating poaching. They’re deploying state-of-the-art imaging technology designed for low visibility conditions. We’re talking about a sophisticated network of multispectral cameras that can see through fog, snow, and even blizzards. These cameras use a combination of infrared, thermal, and UV imaging to identify unauthorized skiers in conditions where traditional cameras fail.

But that’s just the beginning. There's talk about an AI-driven analytical system that processes data from these cameras, using complex algorithms to distinguish between regular skiers, wildlife, and potential poachers. This system supposedly integrates meteorological data, adjusting its sensitivity based on weather conditions. Imagine drones equipped with miniaturized versions of this tech, patrolling the slopes autonomously, providing a bird's-eye view to further enhance surveillance.

Furthermore, they’re rumored to be experimenting with ground-penetrating radar to detect disturbances under the snow, like hidden tracks or equipment caches. And for communication, they're said to be implementing an encrypted network to coordinate rapid response teams, ensuring that any detected poacher is swiftly approached by patrol units equipped with the latest in navigation and safety gear.

Now, bear in mind, this all sounds like it’s straight out of a spy movie, and it’s hard to believe Killington is turning into a high-tech fortress against poaching. But, if even a fraction of this is true, those thinking of sneaking in during a snowstorm might find themselves caught in a net of technology so advanced, it makes James Bond's gadgets look outdated!
:roll:

go ahead and talk to patrol, theyll confirm the cameras and the cross checking of the cameras at the RFID gates. or better yet, talk trash, because youre not a local who actually lives here.
Um?…. A clue here: you might wanna rephrase this… being as you?….. aren’t a local!
So this word "local" . . . ? Define "local".
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Re: Poaching

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Thank you ski - I'd like to know that too! I'm here all year 95% of the time and know I'm not a local - curious what makes you a local!
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Re: Poaching

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Is Pres Smith a local?

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Re: Poaching

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ski wrote: Dec 11th, '23, 16:35
Heywood jablowmee wrote: Dec 11th, '23, 13:10
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:48
Pedro wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:39
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:31

things like this pop into mind: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/04/08 ... mmunities/

eventually, even the 'comfortable' will be pushed out by those who are wealthier. pretty much my point ive been making all along, for years now on this board, to ridicule. i feel it acutely as a member of the already looked down upon working class who makes skiing possible and can barely get by, it will be shadenfraude for me when the better off get hit with a little taste of class warfare as well.

i dont think poaching has any correlation with wealth - those with the skill (questionable!) and the taste for pow are gonna send it whether theyre the dishwasher on their day off or the CEO of a major company on vacation. i do think that killington having the reputation of being 'lax on safety' deters the wealthy from buying up the multimillion dollar proposed condos (after all, lots of places are willing to bend over backwards for their $$$$), hence the sudden vibe shift from laissez faire 'dont be a dick if you get caught and youll get a warning' to remote surveillance and pass suspensions delivered via email. this sudden change with no warning is i believe the first taste of the next phase of class warfare to make space for the even better off as the long awaited village gets developed.

also, its always been 'wealthy' yet up until covid always had space nearby for the working class to make a life here. if it werent for my extremely lucky rental situation that ive been at for years now, id long be gone.

Latest gossip from my neighbor in ski patrol suggests that Killington Resort is pushing the envelope in combating poaching. They’re deploying state-of-the-art imaging technology designed for low visibility conditions. We’re talking about a sophisticated network of multispectral cameras that can see through fog, snow, and even blizzards. These cameras use a combination of infrared, thermal, and UV imaging to identify unauthorized skiers in conditions where traditional cameras fail.

But that’s just the beginning. There's talk about an AI-driven analytical system that processes data from these cameras, using complex algorithms to distinguish between regular skiers, wildlife, and potential poachers. This system supposedly integrates meteorological data, adjusting its sensitivity based on weather conditions. Imagine drones equipped with miniaturized versions of this tech, patrolling the slopes autonomously, providing a bird's-eye view to further enhance surveillance.

Furthermore, they’re rumored to be experimenting with ground-penetrating radar to detect disturbances under the snow, like hidden tracks or equipment caches. And for communication, they're said to be implementing an encrypted network to coordinate rapid response teams, ensuring that any detected poacher is swiftly approached by patrol units equipped with the latest in navigation and safety gear.

Now, bear in mind, this all sounds like it’s straight out of a spy movie, and it’s hard to believe Killington is turning into a high-tech fortress against poaching. But, if even a fraction of this is true, those thinking of sneaking in during a snowstorm might find themselves caught in a net of technology so advanced, it makes James Bond's gadgets look outdated!
:roll:

go ahead and talk to patrol, theyll confirm the cameras and the cross checking of the cameras at the RFID gates. or better yet, talk trash, because youre not a local who actually lives here.
Um?…. A clue here: you might wanna rephrase this… being as you?….. aren’t a local!
So this word "local" . . . ? Define "local".
I think you have to live at the happy bear to wear that badge of honor.
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Re: Poaching

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Hey Pedro, you’re not a local. Deal with it and move on. Stop obsessing, it looks pathetic.
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Re: Poaching

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wtf021 wrote: Dec 11th, '23, 20:02 Hey Pedro, you’re not a local. Deal with it and move on. Stop obsessing, it looks pathetic.
Sounds like somebody's feelings are hurt.
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Re: Poaching

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Clarification here: in the absurdly long winded diatribes from Asher?…. She seems to confuse “local “… with “loco”.
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I'll say this, today the poaching was very reduced. Kudos to patrol for opening most everything again.
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How was the poaching today?

Anyone trashed Needles yet?



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Re: Poaching

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I just clicked on Killington.com and got a warning on my screen that the connection is not secure. Anybody else get this? What else is Powdr up to?
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Re: Poaching

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Heywood jablowmee wrote: Dec 11th, '23, 13:10
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:48
Pedro wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:39
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:31
easyrider16 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 15:25

This is hilarious. Killington IS a wealthy skier mountain and has been for decades. And I'm not just talking generally that skiing is something wealthier people do. Killington is (and has been) one of the premier destination resorts and one of the most expensive in New England. There are plenty of ski areas that are way cheaper both in terms of lift access and surrounding real estate.

BTW, I don't think poaching has any correlation to wealth. In fact I bet the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to poach. I don't really see how stepping up enforcement is going to drive away less wealthy skiers.
things like this pop into mind: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/04/08 ... mmunities/

eventually, even the 'comfortable' will be pushed out by those who are wealthier. pretty much my point ive been making all along, for years now on this board, to ridicule. i feel it acutely as a member of the already looked down upon working class who makes skiing possible and can barely get by, it will be shadenfraude for me when the better off get hit with a little taste of class warfare as well.

i dont think poaching has any correlation with wealth - those with the skill (questionable!) and the taste for pow are gonna send it whether theyre the dishwasher on their day off or the CEO of a major company on vacation. i do think that killington having the reputation of being 'lax on safety' deters the wealthy from buying up the multimillion dollar proposed condos (after all, lots of places are willing to bend over backwards for their $$$$), hence the sudden vibe shift from laissez faire 'dont be a dick if you get caught and youll get a warning' to remote surveillance and pass suspensions delivered via email. this sudden change with no warning is i believe the first taste of the next phase of class warfare to make space for the even better off as the long awaited village gets developed.

also, its always been 'wealthy' yet up until covid always had space nearby for the working class to make a life here. if it werent for my extremely lucky rental situation that ive been at for years now, id long be gone.

Latest gossip from my neighbor in ski patrol suggests that Killington Resort is pushing the envelope in combating poaching. They’re deploying state-of-the-art imaging technology designed for low visibility conditions. We’re talking about a sophisticated network of multispectral cameras that can see through fog, snow, and even blizzards. These cameras use a combination of infrared, thermal, and UV imaging to identify unauthorized skiers in conditions where traditional cameras fail.

But that’s just the beginning. There's talk about an AI-driven analytical system that processes data from these cameras, using complex algorithms to distinguish between regular skiers, wildlife, and potential poachers. This system supposedly integrates meteorological data, adjusting its sensitivity based on weather conditions. Imagine drones equipped with miniaturized versions of this tech, patrolling the slopes autonomously, providing a bird's-eye view to further enhance surveillance.

Furthermore, they’re rumored to be experimenting with ground-penetrating radar to detect disturbances under the snow, like hidden tracks or equipment caches. And for communication, they're said to be implementing an encrypted network to coordinate rapid response teams, ensuring that any detected poacher is swiftly approached by patrol units equipped with the latest in navigation and safety gear.

Now, bear in mind, this all sounds like it’s straight out of a spy movie, and it’s hard to believe Killington is turning into a high-tech fortress against poaching. But, if even a fraction of this is true, those thinking of sneaking in during a snowstorm might find themselves caught in a net of technology so advanced, it makes James Bond's gadgets look outdated!
:roll:

go ahead and talk to patrol, theyll confirm the cameras and the cross checking of the cameras at the RFID gates. or better yet, talk trash, because youre not a local who actually lives here.
Um?…. A clue here: you might wanna rephrase this… being as you?….. aren’t a local!
i live and work here full time, going on 8 years now. unless we're only counting 10th generation vermonters whos ancestors hopped on the mayflower as locals, to which i am not.
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Re: Poaching

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easyrider16 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 18:08
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:31 also, its always been 'wealthy' yet up until covid always had space nearby for the working class to make a life here. if it werent for my extremely lucky rental situation that ive been at for years now, id long be gone.
Sure. Just lucky, huh?

Nobody is entitled to a seat at the table. There's still plenty of space for working class to make a life around Killington. The prices of real estate close to the mountain have gone up, that's true. But there's still plenty of affordable real estate just down the road in Rutland. If that's too far of a drive to you, I have no sympathy. I live and work around Boston because that's where the high-paying jobs are. I do that not because I love the city, but so I can afford to come to Killington on the weekends and pursue my passion. If I have to sacrifice to make this work, why should people like you get it for less?
asher2789 wrote: Dec 10th, '23, 17:31 i think a mistake is being made here, looking at this in a vacuum and ignoring the larger picture. ski 'police', outrageous prices for everything from lift tickets to lessons to beers, the eventual shift (once the village gets underway) to remote parking lots and paid parking closer, its pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that they want to attract a certain clientele at the expense of the current clientele. dont be surprised when the spring party vibes get the shift too.
Supply and demand. So long as people are paying those prices, Killington will keep charging them. Killington is not a charity designed to benefit people who can't afford a certain recreational activity. But for those who can't afford it, there are plenty of other options around New England. Try Canon, Gunstock, Saskadena Six, Whaleback, Mad River Glen, etc. I think it's foolish to expect one of the premier resorts in the area to cater to people who can't afford it.
and this is that f*** attitude i f*** hate.

WHO MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SKI?! WHO BUILDS YOUR LIFTS? WHO BUILDS YOUR LODGES? WHO SERVES YOUR DRINKS? WHO WATCHES YOUR KIDS? WHO CLEANS YOUR VACATION RENTAL? WHO BLOWS YOUR SNOW AND GROOMS IT? WHO SLEDS YOU DOWN THE MOUNTAIN WHEN YOU ARE HURT?

if im not entitled to make a life here working to make these things possible, youre not entitled to enjoy them. again my point all along for years now. your vacation is not possible without us.
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Re: Poaching

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MrsG wrote: Dec 11th, '23, 16:50 Thank you ski - I'd like to know that too! I'm here all year 95% of the time and know I'm not a local - curious what makes you a local!
my definition is anyone who lives and works here full time. people who have second homes here or come up every weekend arent locals IMO. i suppose the truest answer is anyone whos registered to vote here.

if youre here 95% of the time, why do you consider yourself to not be a local? i would consider that to be local.
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