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Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 16:14
by hillbangin
That's spot guns.
Something is broken besides labor....
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Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 16:44
by ski
Skyeburst was lit top to bottom today . .
Wildfire is set up and ready to go next . .
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 17:37
by borgy
BoozeTan wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 08:17
if staffing is an issue then they shouldnt
waste employees on VIP parking that nobody is using anyway....as well as opening up the oh so needed parking spots to the general public...The weather certainly has not cooperated, but even out west where they got pounded, they still arent opening as much terrain as they could have open. Vail for instance is only at about 65%. They need staff as bad as Killington does
VIP parking is operated by an outside company this year, not K employees.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 19:13
by hillbangin
ski wrote:Skyeburst was lit top to bottom today . .
Wildfire is set up and ready to go next . .
You mean the trail segment known as Skyburst. Top to bottom not really.
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Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 19:36
by newpylong1
The trail segment known as Skyeburst is the entire trail top to bottom and has been for a few years now. They were running on nearly the entire thing today.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 21:48
by asher2789
this is what happens when killington only pays $15 an hour for snowmakers. why be a snowmaker and work long shifts, at night, in the cold and snow; when for a dollar less you can work at dunkin donuts? or for even more $ work at a restaurant. or in construction. so many other jobs that pay the same wage or better without the misery.
and that's why we dont have cascade, high line, panic button/needles eye, etc. the smaller snowmaking team can only focus on resurfacing already open trails during a bad year.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 6th, '22, 23:03
by throbster
asher2789 wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 21:48
this is what happens when killington only pays $15 an hour for snowmakers. why be a snowmaker and work long shifts, at night, in the cold and snow; when for a dollar less you can work at dunkin donuts? or for even more $ work at a restaurant. or in construction. so many other jobs that pay the same wage or better without the misery.
and that's why we dont have cascade, high line, panic button/needles eye, etc. the smaller snowmaking team can only focus on resurfacing already open trails during a bad year.
Nah, this is what happens when Congress passes emergency spending bills that pay people not to work
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 08:29
by BoozeTan
borgy wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 17:37
BoozeTan wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 08:17
if staffing is an issue then they shouldnt
waste employees on VIP parking that nobody is using anyway....as well as opening up the oh so needed parking spots to the general public...The weather certainly has not cooperated, but even out west where they got pounded, they still arent opening as much terrain as they could have open. Vail for instance is only at about 65%. They need staff as bad as Killington does
VIP parking is operated by an outside company this year, not K employees.
I was not aware of this. Either way though, if they are so concerned about parking then they dont need 2 bays of VIP parking, especially when nobody is using them anyway
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 08:40
by RENO
BoozeTan wrote: ↑Jan 7th, '22, 08:29
borgy wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 17:37
BoozeTan wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 08:17
if staffing is an issue then they shouldnt
waste employees on VIP parking that nobody is using anyway....as well as opening up the oh so needed parking spots to the general public...The weather certainly has not cooperated, but even out west where they got pounded, they still arent opening as much terrain as they could have open. Vail for instance is only at about 65%. They need staff as bad as Killington does
VIP parking is operated by an outside company this year, not K employees.
I was not aware of this. Either way though, if they are so concerned about parking then they dont need 2 bays of VIP parking, especially when nobody is using them anyway
I remember parking in a "FREE" section early December near K1 base early and when I left, they had that parking area marked as VIP charging I think $35! Even threw me off as I was leaving because I saw the sign in that lane so I went to the next lane and couldn't find my truck.

Then I looked up there and saw it.
As far as terrain, hopefully they get another trail open at the bottom of Bear to help on weekends. It's nutz on weekends and holidays at the bottom with everything funneling into 1 trail.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 08:51
by snoloco
It's been a week of snowmaking temps and they still have yet to make snow on anything that isn't already open, and the snow report has no mention of any expansion plans. Total failure.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 08:54
by daytripper
throbster wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 23:03
asher2789 wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 21:48
this is what happens when killington only pays $15 an hour for snowmakers. why be a snowmaker and work long shifts, at night, in the cold and snow; when for a dollar less you can work at dunkin donuts? or for even more $ work at a restaurant. or in construction. so many other jobs that pay the same wage or better without the misery.
and that's why we dont have cascade, high line, panic button/needles eye, etc. the smaller snowmaking team can only focus on resurfacing already open trails during a bad year.
Nah, this is what happens when Congress passes emergency spending bills that pay people not to work
I guess nobody told you that that all ended over the summer.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 09:07
by brownman
Nonstop Snowmaking resort wide wouldn’t satisfy you minimum wage knucklehead hitchkickers.
It’s just going to be a crappy NE ski year. Deal with it.
Buy a plane ticket West and pray the flight departs.
Plenty of expert terrain where we’ve been skiing

Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 09:12
by hillbangin
asher2789 wrote:this is what happens when killington only pays $15 an hour for snowmakers. why be a snowmaker and work long shifts, at night, in the cold and snow; when for a dollar less you can work at dunkin donuts? or for even more $ work at a restaurant. or in construction. so many other jobs that pay the same wage or better without the misery.
and that's why we dont have cascade, high line, panic button/needles eye, etc. the smaller snowmaking team can only focus on resurfacing already open trails during a bad year.
Agreed. Or babysit for 20 under the table. Or mow lawns for 40 under the table and take the winter off.
Too much opportunity out there if you have your wits about you.
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Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 09:26
by throbster
daytripper wrote: ↑Jan 7th, '22, 08:54
throbster wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 23:03
asher2789 wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 21:48
this is what happens when killington only pays $15 an hour for snowmakers. why be a snowmaker and work long shifts, at night, in the cold and snow; when for a dollar less you can work at dunkin donuts? or for even more $ work at a restaurant. or in construction. so many other jobs that pay the same wage or better without the misery.
and that's why we dont have cascade, high line, panic button/needles eye, etc. the smaller snowmaking team can only focus on resurfacing already open trails during a bad year.
Nah, this is what happens when Congress passes emergency spending bills that pay people not to work
I guess nobody told you that that all ended over the summer.
I think for VT, it was this fall. However, the consequences are still being felt.
It's tough for businesses to absorb labor cost doubling. Bernie followers have a tough time understanding economics.
Re: Lack of expert terrain
Posted: Jan 7th, '22, 09:43
by Big Bob
asher2789 wrote: ↑Jan 6th, '22, 21:48
this is what happens when killington only pays $15 an hour for snowmakers. why be a snowmaker and work long shifts, at night, in the cold and snow; when for a dollar less you can work at dunkin donuts? or for even more $ work at a restaurant. or in construction. so many other jobs that pay the same wage or better without the misery.
and that's why we dont have cascade, high line, panic button/needles eye, etc. the smaller snowmaking team can only focus on resurfacing already open trails during a bad year.
Sunday River pays $20/hour for snowmakers and has about 400 acres open.