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Re: Lack of expert terrain

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.. PTI .. wasn't there a topic in here somewhere .. or has this now become a diatribe and historical analysis of a friend's demise as a sharecropper?

All the snowmaking changes in the world wouldn't change the weather dynamic this year :sad:
Some resorts have committed themselves to opening black and double black terrain .. and keeping it operational :like
On expert terrain, it remains to be seen whether Beast will live up to their moniker this season.
Until Cascade and some of the front 6 terrain opens, K just doesn't deliver the goods.
Many 100 day clubbers want to believe they have it best in the East. Uh Huh .. :roll:
Very few of them have sampled any terrain outside of the Basin this year.

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asher2789 wrote: Jan 10th, '22, 16:00
Mister Moose wrote: Jan 9th, '22, 15:13
You aren't giving the marketplace enough time to recognize change and adapt. That plus COVID uncertainty. And a bad winter so far. Not the best mix lately.
the marketplace has had plenty of time. if wages kept up with inflation and productivity since 1971 the minimum wage would be $24 an hour today. the math doesnt work out anymore.
You might want to dial some of that back.

1968-1972
The federal minimum wage was raised to $1.60 an hour, effective February 1, 1968. In today's dollars, that's equal to $12.06.

In 1970, the median sales price of newly constructed homes sold in the US was $23,900 (equivalent to $162,140.74 in today's dollars). That year, a gallon of gas cost $0.35.

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Where do you see that in 1971 the minimum wage would equal $24 in todays dollars?
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1.6 x 2000 hours = 3200
Buy house for 24000

15 x 2000 = 30000
Buy house for over 400000

Big difference.... Nevermind taxes.

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Re: Lack of expert terrain

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Snowshed and Timberline are under the guns

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Mister Moose wrote: Jan 10th, '22, 19:53 Where do you see that in 1971 the minimum wage would equal $24 in todays dollars?
I believe the statistics she is quoting are from a union source that factors in increases in productivity. The proponents of the $24 figure are suggesting that the value of that increase in productivity should go to the worker rather than the employer. I'm not sure that's fair.

In Massachusetts the minimum wage will be $15 by 2023. I think that's more than fair. The $7.25 federal minimum wage is absurdly low, however, when compared with the inflation-adjusted 1971 minimum wage.
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allskiing1 wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 08:11 Snowshed and Timberline are under the guns ImageImage

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easyrider16 wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 08:15
Mister Moose wrote: Jan 10th, '22, 19:53 Where do you see that in 1971 the minimum wage would equal $24 in todays dollars?
I believe the statistics she is quoting are from a union source that factors in increases in productivity. The proponents of the $24 figure are suggesting that the value of that increase in productivity should go to the worker rather than the employer. I'm not sure that's fair.

In Massachusetts the minimum wage will be $15 by 2023. I think that's more than fair. The $7.25 federal minimum wage is absurdly low, however, when compared with the inflation-adjusted 1971 minimum wage.
It's not an issue of fair. It's an issue of central command economy vs market economy.

As far as Snowshed goes, apparently beginners have enough clout to get snow. Maybe we'll see what the new park design is going to be.
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It's just mind boggling to see that with Route 4 not open.
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newpylong1 wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 08:55
allskiing1 wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 08:11 Snowshed and Timberline are under the guns ImageImage

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ski wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 10:37
newpylong1 wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 08:55
allskiing1 wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 08:11 Snowshed and Timberline are under the guns ImageImage

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Re: Lack of expert terrain

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So short sighted IMHO. They will absolutely loose high end groups next year that booked expensive lodging believing that MLK day was a safe bet for the skyeship or sunrise ski access. I doubt they'll loose anybody if they fail to get 6th terrain park open on Snowshed. At this point I sort of think they are going to bag stage 1 for the year. If that's the case, I wish they would just come out and say it so home owners and hosts can plan accordingly.
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It is disappointing and surprising. I can't remember not touching both Sunrise/Bear and rt 4 for MLK.
It will hurt future bookings, when limited Ski on/off lodging is one of the biggest complaints on guest surveys. And many people love the peak to creek run.

They already blew to Bearly, it doesnt seem like that big a commitment to finish rt 4. Mountain has been heavily booked/sold out for MLK for some time already.
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You sideliners are hysterical...FACT:.....base lodge parking lots...are FULL. Have been most weekends....NO ONE ELSE ...on East Coast...is delivering the same . Stay home...more terrain for moi.....
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GMCrra wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 11:19 It is disappointing and surprising. I can't remember not touching both Sunrise/Bear and rt 4 for MLK.
It will hurt future bookings, when limited Ski on/off lodging is one of the biggest complaints on guest surveys. And many people love the peak to creek run.

They already blew to Bearly, it doesnt seem like that big a commitment to finish rt 4. Mountain has been heavily booked/sold out for MLK for some time already.
Honestly - other than that they need the parking, Bear might as well not be open - nothing there to ski except for Skyburst and Bear Claw - so 2 quads are feeding down 1.5 trails into the same base area which makes for some very crowded (and unsafe) skiing.
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Low Rider wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 12:10
GMCrra wrote: Jan 11th, '22, 11:19 It is disappointing and surprising. I can't remember not touching both Sunrise/Bear and rt 4 for MLK.
It will hurt future bookings, when limited Ski on/off lodging is one of the biggest complaints on guest surveys. And many people love the peak to creek run.

They already blew to Bearly, it doesnt seem like that big a commitment to finish rt 4. Mountain has been heavily booked/sold out for MLK for some time already.
Honestly - other than that they need the parking, Bear might as well not be open - nothing there to ski except for Skyburst and Bear Claw - so 2 quads are feeding down 1.5 trails into the same base area which makes for some very crowded (and unsafe) skiing.
With the relatively limited amount of terrain open, the Zoo factor this weekend is going to be extreme. Okemo and pretty much everyone else in New England is in the same boat.
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